New tires.... - Page 3

Amber Lamps · 02-18-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiSig1071

Here to help! That's why I'm a ridercoach.

Hey speaking of that...do you use a partner or do you use a sag measurement kit like this one...

http://www.motionpro.com/tech/articl...ing_sag_scale/

PhiSig1071 · 02-18-2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Hey speaking of that...do you use a partner or do you use a sag measurement kit like this one...

http://www.motionpro.com/tech/articl...ing_sag_scale/

I use a few buddies to help, I don't want to be your "partner"

The problem is you need to measure sag to include when the suspension is completely unloaded, as in rear tire is off the ground. If you want to do that on your own it's kind of a bitch unless you have special stands.

Amber Lamps · 02-19-2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PhiSig1071

I use a few buddies to help, I don't want to be your "partner"

The problem is you need to measure sag to include when the suspension is completely unloaded, as in rear tire is off the ground. If you want to do that on your own it's kind of a bitch unless you have special stands.

Yea but you only have to measure that once and really,isn't that number in the service manual under "suspension travel"? I mean that number is never going to change right? The numbers you really need to get are when the bike is alone vs with a rider. Can't you get those using stands?

DLIT · 02-19-2009, 12:53 AM

I'm trying something other than Pilot Powers. I'm getting some Bridgestone BTO16s mounted to my black wheels which are currently being pinstriped. A couple of buddies won't shut up about how nice they are, so I'm giving 'em a shot.

PhiSig1071 · 02-19-2009, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Yea but you only have to measure that once and really,isn't that number in the service manual under "suspension travel"? I mean that number is never going to change right? The numbers you really need to get are when the bike is alone vs with a rider. Can't you get those using stands?

It's a LOT more complicated than that. You are figuring out how much your suspension compresses under the weight it is supporting, that includes the weight of the bike and the rider (and gear! you'd be amazed how many people measure sag in basketball shorts and a t-shirt not taking into account how much leathers weigh). "Suspension Travel" in your owners manual is the distance from full compression to full extension, it doesn't take into account the amount your suspension settles under the weight of the bike. And because the suspension is supporting that weight you need to take it into account in your adjustments.

Amber Lamps · 02-19-2009, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PhiSig1071

It's a LOT more complicated than that. You are figuring out how much your suspension compresses under the weight it is supporting, that includes the weight of the bike and the rider (and gear! you'd be amazed how many people measure sag in basketball shorts and a t-shirt not taking into account how much leathers weigh). "Suspension Travel" in your owners manual is the distance from full compression to full extension, it doesn't take into account the amount your suspension settles under the weight of the bike. And because the suspension is supporting that weight you need to take it into account in your adjustments.

Hmmm yea but didn't you say you lift the bike until the tire is off the ground? That's full extension and the shock/fork's design will only allow it to go so far... Shoot,I thought I understood this shit! I take the max extension number for granted and adjust preload based on the bike alone vs bike with rider numbers...

Amber Lamps · 02-19-2009, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DLIT

I'm trying something other than Pilot Powers. I'm getting some Bridgestone BTO16s mounted to my black wheels which are currently being pinstriped. A couple of buddies won't shut up about how nice they are, so I'm giving 'em a shot.

I'm using the BT-016s right now...the jury is still out-I REALLY liked my Pirellis!

DLIT · 02-19-2009, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

I'm using the BT-016s right now...the jury is still out-I REALLY liked my Pirellis!

We shall see. I'll be going to my favorite spot on Sunday to break 'em in.

marko138 · 02-19-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Cutty72

I warn you, be cautious on the first ride.
The fast turn/tip in that everyone loves with them on a Jap bike = super twitchyness on a Buell for the first miles. (at least on the 1125)

I like the Corsa's...and they are wearing pretty nicely. But I loved the Pilot Powers. So I figure I'll run a set and see whats what.

The XB might even have sharper geometry than the 1125. Not sure on that.

Trip · 02-19-2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

I'm using the BT-016s right now...the jury is still out-I REALLY liked my Pirellis!

yeah the corsa IIIs are lovely, I tried the PP 2CTs and to be honest I prefer the regular PPs to them.

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