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Old 11-17-2009, 11:38 AM   #21
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Why is North America so uptight about drinking anyways?
Because altering your mental state using a chemical for any reason that is not directly related to saving your life or alleviating pain caused by a real medical condition is bad. Mmmkay?
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Because altering your mental state using a chemical for any reason that is not directly related to saving your life or alleviating pain caused by a real medical condition is bad. Mmmkay?
Hmmm....I hope you're joking, but I've been known to not get your jokes before. So I'm going to assume that you're joking just to be safe.

I'm not talking about binge drinking. But having a glass of wine with dinner, or a beer is widely accepted throughout Europe yet staunchly frowned upon in most of North America. Just find the cultural difference odd.
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Hmmm....I hope you're joking, but I've been known to not get your jokes before. So I'm going to assume that you're joking just to be safe.

I'm not talking about binge drinking. But having a glass of wine with dinner, or a beer is widely accepted throughout Europe yet staunchly frowned upon in most of North America. Just find the cultural difference odd.
No, I'm not joking at all. That is the prevailing mentality behind the laws and views on alcohol and drugs in America.
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:01 PM   #24
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Hmmm....I hope you're joking, but I've been known to not get your jokes before. So I'm going to assume that you're joking just to be safe.

I'm not talking about binge drinking. But having a glass of wine with dinner, or a beer is widely accepted throughout Europe yet staunchly frowned upon in most of North America. Just find the cultural difference odd.
I always understood that the difference was in Europe they don't(or at least used to not) have a good way to filter water so they would ferment things to kill the bacteria or whatever. That's why it is so normal there because water wasn't safe to drink.

That of course doesn't explain why NA has a problem with it, just the difference in the mindset of Euros to Americans.
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I always understood that the difference was in Europe they don't(or at least used to not) have a good way to filter water so they would ferment things to kill the bacteria or whatever. That's why it is so normal there because water wasn't safe to drink.

That of course doesn't explain why NA has a problem with it, just the difference in the mindset of Euros to Americans.

Hmmm....didn't know that but it would make sense I suppose.

When I was in Germany a tour guide told us all about how beer there is considered a food so employers can't stop you from drinking on the job and it's perfectly okay to drink at lunch.
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Hmmm....didn't know that but it would make sense I suppose.

When I was in Germany a tour guide told us all about how beer there is considered a food so employers can't stop you from drinking on the job and it's perfectly okay to drink at lunch.
Yeah my dad told me about that. He was in Germany for ministry when he was pretty young and his fellow American Conservative Pentacostal Christian friends nearly fell out of their chairs when the German pastors were getting drunk after church on Sunday.
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:19 PM   #27
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One problem with Europe or at least parts of it is serving warm beer...that would stop me from drinking it right there.
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One problem with Europe or at least parts of it is serving warm beer...that would stop me from drinking it right there.
It's not warm, it's served at the optimum temperature for that type of beer. Cask ale should be served at a warmer (not WARM but warmer) temperature than other ales or lagers.
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It's not warm, it's served at the optimum temperature for that type of beer. Cask ale should be served at a warmer (not WARM but warmer) temperature than other ales or lagers.
I guess it's all relative because room temperature is WARM to me. I like my beer cold and the colder the better.

I don't drink Cask ale so I wouldn't know.

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I guess this is the suggested temps for beer and when I said room temperature it was based on what I was told by a friend that just got back from France and was staying in a hotel near the France/Belgium border.

Wheat beers and pale lagers at fridge temperature, 45-50°F (7-10°C)
Pale ales, English bitter, amber ales or dark lagers at 50-55°F (10-13°C)
Belgian ales, barley wines and similar strong beers at around 55°F (13°C)
Porters, stouts and other dark ales at 55-60° F (13-15°C)
Some of the stronger Belgian beers should be served close to room temperature

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They're not served at room temperature. It's just not as cold as a 'cold beer' to you.
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