tazering, deserved or not? - Page 4

karl_1052 · 11-05-2009, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tmall

Should your father have been tased?

Some guys here would think so...

Did he get back in the car and wait for furhter commands?
Did he reach for the cops gun?
Did he try to steal donuts from the dashboard?
Did he refuse to obey commands given by a police officer?
Did he resist when being arrested?

http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69801

Tmall · 11-05-2009, 09:19 AM

I don't even think enough of you to even chuckle in your general direction.

But, you've proven my point yet again..

Tmall · 11-05-2009, 09:24 AM

I can't click the link from my phone.

But, he couldn't have been resisting arrest until he was told what he was being arrested for.

As for reaching for guns and anything else that happened off camera, all his word against theirs.

I have no problem with police, and if the guy had any form of weapon or been combative, then he should have been subdued.

But, he wanted to know why he was being detained, which he has a legal right to know.

Charged with disobeying a lawful order? Sure, that could stick. Resisting and deserving to be tased several times? Nope..

And the jury agrees.

So, what facts do you guys have to base the legality of his tasing on?

RACER X · 11-05-2009, 09:29 AM

jurys also awarded a family $850k from the bat manuf. for their son being killed by a baseball.

HokieDNA01 · 11-05-2009, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tmall

Should your father have been tased?

Some guys here would think so...

No because my father COMPLIED! The officer then told him why he needed to stay in his car and my dad agreed. He also let him off with a warning.

karl_1052 · 11-05-2009, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tmall

I can't click the link from my phone.

But, he couldn't have been resisting arrest until he was told what he was being arrested for.

As for reaching for guns and anything else that happened off camera, all his word against theirs.

I have no problem with police, and if the guy had any form of weapon or been combative, then he should have been subdued.

But, he wanted to know why he was being detained, which he has a legal right to know.

Charged with disobeying a lawful order? Sure, that could stick. Resisting and deserving to be tased several times? Nope..

And the jury agrees.

So, what facts do you guys have to base the legality of his tasing on?

The liink is to a legal site that outlines the fact that you have to comply with police's orders. The officer does not have to tell him why he is being detained until the detainee complies with his orders.

z06boy · 11-05-2009, 11:10 AM

DESERVED !! After refusing to listen to the officer's repeated request and then being told if he didn't he was going to get tased and still not complying...ZAP.

He did sound like a little b!tch after being zapped though.

Papa_Complex · 11-05-2009, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karl_1052

I would have tazed him 10 seconds into the video. That cop had the patience of a saint.

On a related note, it made me giggle when he screamed like a little girl. haha

Three minutes and 30 seconds of failure to obey the lawful orders of a police officer? In that officer's position and the way that guy was behaving, it wouldn't have been the Taser that I pulled.

He shouldn't have gotten off on the resisting charge.

Smittie61984 · 11-05-2009, 05:26 PM

I can't hear the vid since I'm at school but I always believe there is a reason to use a taser no matter the situation. Just as long as you can watch it on video.

He should have been tased for looking like a douche at least.

Kaneman · 11-05-2009, 07:33 PM

Undeserved. The man was not acting in an aggressive manner toward the police officer, yet the police officer was immediately aggressive and excited toward the man because he had exited his vehicle. The police officer immediately escalated the situation instead of defusing it using a militaristic, police state type attitude that everyone must immediately follow every order you scream no matter what.

This is another increasingly common example of a complete failure to deal with the general public using basic courtesy and common sense. The officer himself appeared to be very fearful without just cause. Hey, its a scary job...and if you can't deal with it calmly then go do something else.

11-05-2009, 09:29 AM	#34
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11-05-2009, 05:26 PM	#39
Smittie61984 I give Squids a bad name Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fly Over State Moto: 1996 CBR600 F3 (AKA the Flying Turd) Posts: 4,742	I can't hear the vid since I'm at school but I always believe there is a reason to use a taser no matter the situation. Just as long as you can watch it on video. He should have been tased for looking like a douche at least. __________________ lifts - R.I.P.

11-05-2009, 07:33 PM	#40
Kaneman AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Odessa, TX Moto: 2000 Honda CBR1100XX Blackbird Posts: 4,931	Undeserved. The man was not acting in an aggressive manner toward the police officer, yet the police officer was immediately aggressive and excited toward the man because he had exited his vehicle. The police officer immediately escalated the situation instead of defusing it using a militaristic, police state type attitude that everyone must immediately follow every order you scream no matter what. This is another increasingly common example of a complete failure to deal with the general public using basic courtesy and common sense. The officer himself appeared to be very fearful without just cause. Hey, its a scary job...and if you can't deal with it calmly then go do something else. __________________ 1982 Honda XR80 - blown motor, 1993 Kawasaki ZX6D - sold, 2001 Suzuki Bandit 1200S - sold, 1984 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Kawasaki ZRX1200R - blown motor, 2007 Suzuki DL1000 V-Strom - totalled, 2003 Yamaha FZ1 - sold, 1994 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Honda CBR600F4i - sold, 1998 Suzuki DR350 - stolen, 1989 Honda Super Magna - sold, 2007 Yamaha Stratoliner, 2000 Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird

11-05-2009, 09:19 AM	#32
Tmall Aspiring Rapper Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Halifax, NS Moto: '12 CB1000R Posts: 3,569	I don't even think enough of you to even chuckle in your general direction. But, you've proven my point yet again..

11-05-2009, 09:24 AM	#33
Tmall Aspiring Rapper Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Halifax, NS Moto: '12 CB1000R Posts: 3,569	I can't click the link from my phone. But, he couldn't have been resisting arrest until he was told what he was being arrested for. As for reaching for guns and anything else that happened off camera, all his word against theirs. I have no problem with police, and if the guy had any form of weapon or been combative, then he should have been subdued. But, he wanted to know why he was being detained, which he has a legal right to know. Charged with disobeying a lawful order? Sure, that could stick. Resisting and deserving to be tased several times? Nope.. And the jury agrees. So, what facts do you guys have to base the legality of his tasing on?

11-05-2009, 11:10 AM	#37
z06boy Letzroll Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lake Norman area, NC Moto: 07 Red R1 & 07 Blue R6 Posts: 5,265	DESERVED !! After refusing to listen to the officer's repeated request and then being told if he didn't he was going to get tased and still not complying...ZAP. He did sound like a little b!tch after being zapped though.