Whale Wars, anybody watch

[Dragonpaco]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Hey I know, why don't we just kill all those people engaged in legal activities because we don't like it. This reminds me of the nut jobs that spiked a bunch of trees so loggers would get injured if they cut them down or the people who oil corners at the Gap because they don't like us speeding down 129.

The Japanese whalers have found a "loophole" in the law. Get together and change the law but to attack and potentially injure or even kill these sailors who are just trying to make a living... IDK maybe this is another case where I'm stupid/crazy/ an idiot/ etc but I don't get it. This would be like someone against deer hunting setting up booby traps on state land.

tree spiking is really fucked up. people get mauled by those things and if they don't die; they usually end up wishing they were dead because of the disabling injuries.

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

If they really aren't doing any scientific research, then it's not a loophole.......They're simply breaking the law

Prove they are doing anything illegal though...

I feel the same way as tigger, I may not condone whaling, but they should be able to shoot those trying to sabotage their ships, in self defense...

If somebody was trying to sink my ship (if I had one), i'd think that was attempted murder.

[Tmall]

Except you're not supposed to have weapons in international waters...

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

If they really aren't doing any scientific research, then it's not a loophole.......They're simply breaking the law

Maybe, but then why not have them arrested? They are obviously doing whatever is necessary to satisfy the laws as they stand on the books. Even Greenpeace is satisfied for the most part with the law. Although I am sure that they are working hard to eliminate even this small amount of whale hunting. I'm sorry but to me hunting is hunting. Why does a whale have a greater right to life than a deer? This particular species isn't endangered and these guys are staying well within their quota/limit. It'll never cease to amaze me how some animals are off limits and others are kill on sight.

[Tmall]

Foot in mouth.. Was thinkign of the Atlantic right whale, not minke..

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by Dragonpaco

tree spiking is really fucked up. people get mauled by those things and if they don't die; they usually end up wishing they were dead because of the disabling injuries.

theres only one recorded incident of someone getting hurt from tree spiking in the USA in the last 30 years (just checked), and he was working in a sawmill, not actually felling the trees.

I checked cuz i wanted to see the damage they did, lol.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Tmall

Except you're not supposed to have weapons in international waters...

Well, there's something I didn't know...

Ha the gun lovers will love this one... so that's why pirates have such easy pickings, since only the criminals have weapons.

Well, these are Japanese people we're talking about, I'm sure they could whip up something to combat these people. A slingshot, a giant robot, idk something! Shit, how are they spearing the whales/ they should use that!

[Dragonpaco]

the spike was always meant to fuck people up at the sawmill. and i've heard alot more than 1 30 year old story from the loggers up in forks, WA when i was hanging up there

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Apoc

Prove they are doing anything illegal though...

I feel the same way as tigger, I may not condone whaling, but they should be able to shoot those trying to sabotage their ships, in self defense...

If somebody was trying to sink my ship (if I had one), i'd think that was attempted murder.

Me too! That's like someone trying to stick a pipe in my wheel or flatten my tires. They have a right to defend themselves don't they?

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Tmall

Also forgot to mention that if anything is tangled in your prop, its a good idea to remove it ASAP.

Now, if some ropes with heavy weights got wrapped around it, the hull would take a beating and be potentially compromised.

They already do try to get the props with nets, but they suck at sailing and anything of that nature, so they fail.

Originally Posted by azoomm

I mean, geeez - the ships all say RESEARCH on the side of them. What more proof do we need?? There is the right way to go about this, and there is the wrong way. Trying to take on a ship with a personal water craft while they are firing water cannons at you in freezing waters is the WRONG way.

Perhaps, but then I'm no expert

They actually do get real scientific research from it. Like on fish patterns and how much the whales are taking out the fish stock and the IWC who gets pissed off at them for whaling, also said their research work has been very good.