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02-28-2010, 01:52 PM | #1 |
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Ha. Mechanical systems FTMFW.
Fly-by-wire? Die by wire. Electric power steering. Who coulda guessed that'd be a bad idea, huh?
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02-28-2010, 01:55 PM | #2 |
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Agreed on all counts.
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02-28-2010, 02:02 PM | #3 |
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'cept fly by wire is the direction all sportbikes are eventually going...
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02-28-2010, 05:15 PM | #4 |
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And to their credit they dont seem to be suffering any big setbacks. I remembered how shocked and appalled I was when I first heard of Yamaha's Fly by wire throttle. I was having issues with my Chevy T blazers linear potentiometer throttle at tha time.
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02-28-2010, 06:53 PM | #5 |
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02-28-2010, 08:31 PM | #6 |
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So the used market will have one more buyer...
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02-28-2010, 02:23 PM | #7 |
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For the record, my first car was a fully manual '70 Chevelle Malibu [zero-option stripper, orig with 307, and a 'glide]. The 'glide was DOA, so the build was on.
I assembled it (on a kid's budget, mostly used parts) to have: Manual steering [with a 14" Grant wheel, no less!], Hurst Competition Plus shifted M-20 Muncie w/low 1st gear [yes, I cut a hole in the floor, and hung pedals], and fully manual brakes [gasp! DRUMS all corners!]. The mechanical secondary Holley quad 650 [on a single plane Edelbrock intake] had a huge fucking return spring on it too, as did the 3800Lb. clutch. Stock open 10 bolt [held up for a while in the back, was later replaced with a 12 bolt], a solid cam [sic], and some Blackjack headers, and the little 307 smallblock woke up nicely. The stock 2-bolt cast bottom end held up to everything, even though the powerband [with the solid stick and single plane] was high as balls, and the motor routinely saw 7000 RPMs as a result. The thing was a fucking animal to drive. I got to the point that I could actually drive that car, and eat a cheeseburger, fries, and a Coke...but I wouldn't recommend it. Once you learn to drive on that shit, though, anything else is cake. Thus I can say that I agree driver training could be a lot better - clearly not everyone should learn like I did, but evidently training helps. I would say I feel more prepared than most behind the wheel based on emergency driving situations I've experienced since, I feel, by my "training" in a challenging car. How challenging was this thing [my first car] to drive? Not ONCE in the 5 years or so that I had that fucking beast, did I ever have it successfully valet parked, and I used to drive to NYC often (LOL!). I got to walk around in a lot of NYC parking garages with the attendant as my guide. I used to try and park on the street as much as possible, as a result. Not like anyone could drive it to steal it...lol. It didn't even have a security system (if they existed back then, I couldn't have afforded it).
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02-28-2010, 07:13 PM | #9 |
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18 year old kid, limited funds. I started with a 307 Malibu stripper. If it didn't make the car go faster, it came off the car. The car came with no power anything, and I clearly made it worse (in terms of effort to operate)...but just a wee tad faster.
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02-28-2010, 07:36 PM | #10 |
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There's a difference between a non power gear box and a power gear box that lost pressure.
When power steering goes out you're manually pushing fluid back and forth, so yes it does get stiff unlike just a regular old gear box like whats on my vehicle that has no pressure or anything to fight against other than friction. |
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