'The Unemployed Will Not Be Considered'

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by pdog

Personally I think ignoring the unemployed is BS. It's not really that hard to scan a resume in 30 seconds and determine if that person has the skill set you are looking for. Just don't depend on a recruiting firm to send you candidates - bad ones will send everyone and their mother to interview.

That said, I've interviewed some people for software positions who had all sorts of acronyms (e.g. SQL, HTML) on their resume and yet couldn't speak intelligently about any of them.

When I had to vet resumes, I found that fully 75% of them were professionally prepared. That tells you nothing about the candidate, apart from the fact he doesn't trust his written skills. Essentially all of those got tossed, on spec.

[Captain Morgan]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Yeah that makes sense.



Why place ads at all, then?

If you're only going to consider candidates who you seek out yourself, then don't waste our time by placing an ad for the rest of us to respond to.

No shit. If the people are happy where they are, then they aren't exactly going to be looking at job ads. That's what headhunters are for. Dumbasses.

[RACER X]

Originally Posted by Rider

Makes sense. There is probably a reason they are not employed.

I worknin engineering also, my co. Went from ~3800 people down to ~1500 people, guess they all sucked, lots engineers too.

[RACER X]

Originally Posted by Rider

I'm not even looking for work and I average 2-3 calls a week plus another 4-5 emails from companies looking. If you are experienced it isn't that hard. New grads, yeah it's very had because you don't have a proven track record.

My new grad engineer friend found work rather quickly, my senior engineerr friends can't. They are EEs

And every major eng firm in Houston Is down most over 50 %, must be a lot of sucky engineers out there.

[pdog]

Exactly, I think that's a valid reason to toss a resume. But unemployment isn't, IMO, it happens for many reasons, not just because the person sucks at their job.

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

When I had to vet resumes, I found that fully 75% of them were professionally prepared. That tells you nothing about the candidate, apart from the fact he doesn't trust his written skills. Essentially all of those got tossed, on spec.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Rider

I can only speak intelligently about the industry I work in, Engineering which this article covers. Not many companies(outside of banking) with highly educated people have shut their doors. There have however been many companies to downsize. Most if not all companies base their layoffs on performance. While they may not admit it, they do, so most engineers that are out of work are out of work because they were in the bottom performing 20%.

Seriously...you are wrong. Companies specially do not do this in fear of being sued. Instead they lay off entire departments, some people of which, are highly qualified.

You can be replaced...trust me (with 3 or 4 Middle East Indians lol).

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Rider

I'm not even looking for work and I average 2-3 calls a week plus another 4-5 emails from companies looking. If you are experienced it isn't that hard. New grads, yeah it's very had because you don't have a proven track record.

Yeah if you are on job search sites or using a head hunter. On your own? B.S.

[Rider]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Yeah if you are on job search sites or using a head hunter. On your own? B.S.

I have my resume posted on online. You never know when you'll need to look OR if an unexpected better opportunity comes along.

[Rider]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Seriously...you are wrong. Companies specially do not do this in fear of being sued. Instead they lay off entire departments, some people of which, are highly qualified.

You can be replaced...trust me (with 3 or 4 Middle East Indians lol).

Highly qualified but are making more money than an equally performing lower paid engineer. It's all about value. How much work can i get out an an individual for X dollars. Typically older engineers(non managers) are making a ton of money and have years of experience but are no more valuable than say an engineer with 5 years of experience making 20K less a year. In this economy you have to go with your best bang for the buck and highly qualified engineers may not get you that.

[RACER X]

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