Nigerian tried to blow up the plane

[Avatard]

I have a decoder ring from an old box of Quisp that might help...

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'Nother one:

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...950623,00.html

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The good done during the Bush administration was, unfortunately, quite little, and it was far outweighed by the bad. History is usually kind looking back - anger fades, and we all tend to remember the good things more than the bad.

I suspect this aspect of human nature will still not be able to transcend the sheer magnitude of "bad" in GWB's case, and he likely will go down in history as one of the worst, if not the single worst president this country has ever known.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=...6c7832dbb01be6

[EpyonXero]

I dont work for Homeland Security but but one thing I learned from working for the government is that its very cliqueish every agency or even department within an agency feels like they need to protect their own interests against other agencies. They only work together if their forced to by regulations.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by EpyonXero

I dont work for Homeland Security but but one thing I learned from working for the government is that its very cliqueish every agency or even department within an agency feels like they need to protect their own interests against other agencies. They only work together if their forced to by regulations.

As a complete outsider I have only read the same thing, but the theme is repeated constantly. Even with a cabinet level department supposedly performing oversight and fostering cooperation between agencies they didn't work together in this case. I am using a wide brush, but it seems endemic in the government that most agencies are primarily concerned with protecting their agency and its budget rather than their primary mission (in this case protecting America).

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by goof2

As a complete outsider I have only read the same thing, but the theme is repeated constantly. Even with a cabinet level department supposedly performing oversight and fostering cooperation between agencies they didn't work together in this case. I am using a wide brush, but it seems endemic in the government that most agencies are primarily concerned with protecting their agency and its budget rather than their primary mission (in this case protecting America).

Creating Homeland Security simply created a new "clique", rather than addressing the real problem.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Creating Homeland Security simply created a new "clique", rather than addressing the real problem.

As I have stated, I am a complete outsider so I don't know if it has created a new "clique". I haven't read about that being the problem like I have with interactions between the FBI, CIA, NSA, etc., but that doesn't mean it isn't happening. Whatever the ultimate cause is, I agree that DHS hasn't been effective at fixing the problems its creation was supposed to fix.