Does anyone really give a shit about Joe the Plumber? - Page 6

Smittie61984 · 01-18-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

Have I met a real business owner?

I don't know. I'm asking you. You're vision of a "Business Owner" seems to be someone who got his MBA from Harvard and is the only person capable of running a functioning business. And that anyone else who doesn't hold a major business degree is just wasting time trying to make wealth because they can't figure out the tax code.

Homeslice · 01-19-2009, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984

If they had something like that 2 months earlier then I think the McCain camp could have dominated Obama.

Not a chance.........McCain used the Joe the Plumber shtick one too many times in the last debate. After the first 30 minutes it was getting old already.

Also he should never have pushed for the town hall style debate. That last one made him look really old and ready to keel over, walking around like he did. Superficial but it's true. But that's another subject.

Homeslice · 01-19-2009, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ebbs15

instead they tore this guys life apart for what?

Because he ALLOWED them to.

I don't see him turning any interview offers down

Homeslice · 01-19-2009, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by VatorMan

ORLY? You bust McCain's balls and you say I don't know how you voted?

BTW-I hope you enjoy being part of the Obamanation.

You ever hear of write-in votes, Ace?

You don't have to constrain yourself to the 2 main parties.

The world is only black and white if you want it to be.

Mr Lefty · 01-19-2009, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Because he ALLOWED them to.

I don't see him turning any interview offers down

he was investigated and sensationalized by the media long before he did another interview.

but yes... dude isn't helping it... I could care less about him...

Smittie61984 · 01-19-2009, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Not a chance.........McCain used the Joe the Plumber shtick one too many times in the last debate. After the first 30 minutes it was getting old already.

Also he should never have pushed for the town hall style debate. That last one made him look really old and ready to keel over, walking around like he did. Superficial but it's true. But that's another subject.

I agree the Joe the Plumber shit got overpushed. But you have to remember that "Swing" voters are the dumbest group of animals on the planet. So phrases like "Joe the Plumber/six pack" or "Change" repeatedly beat into their head is what works. An intelligent person who sides on the Democrat side or an intelligent person who sides on the Republican side isn't going to be swayed by useless babble. Swing voters are though.

pauldun170 · 01-19-2009, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984

And how do they figure out "Accounting, Tax Codes, etc"??? Easy. While they are out digging up your septic tank or mowing your lawn, they are taking that money you hand them and paying some joker at H&R block who makes $40k a year to do it for them.

Me. I'll be in that tax bracket one day for sure (Providing Obama doesn't lower it to $15k a year). You guys can settle on never progressing but not me.

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984

I don't know. I'm asking you. You're vision of a "Business Owner" seems to be someone who got his MBA from Harvard and is the only person capable of running a functioning business. And that anyone else who doesn't hold a major business degree is just wasting time trying to make wealth because they can't figure out the tax code.

You fail when it comes to reading comprehension kiddo....

Papa_Complex · 01-19-2009, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984

I agree the Joe the Plumber shit got overpushed. But you have to remember that "Swing" voters are the dumbest group of animals on the planet. So phrases like "Joe the Plumber/six pack" or "Change" repeatedly beat into their head is what works. An intelligent person who sides on the Democrat side or an intelligent person who sides on the Republican side isn't going to be swayed by useless babble. Swing voters are though.

Dumber than hide-bound voters who vote for 'their' party, year in and year out, no matter what the members of that party do or what new issues may have arisen? Someone who does that sounds about as smart as a rock, to me.

Papa_Complex · 01-19-2009, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

And he was running for what public office? His credibility meant exactly what to the question being asked? His motives had what to do with the questions raised about Obama's response?

The bottom line is, the media made it about the man... when the truth is... the man did not matter... it was the metaphor he represented. Focusing on him rather than what he represented and the questions in Obama's policy raised by that interview is nothing but smoke and mirrors. So focus on what doesn't matter and ignore what does... Keep listening to the media because they always tell us what we need to know and are always focused on what matters.

No, he wasn't running for public office, but apparently he thought that he could slip a zinger in on the guy who was, in front of the media. That made him fair game.

OneSickPsycho · 01-19-2009, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

No, he wasn't running for public office, but apparently he thought that he could slip a zinger in on the guy who was, in front of the media. That made him fair game.

Why? Was all the coverage of Joe NOT just simply a distraction? I mean, where's the story with this guy?