Trail braking?

[the chi]

Smartass. Thats why he gets away with calling himself "the awesome".

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Originally Posted by The Chi

Smartass. Thats why he gets away with calling himself "the awesome".

Hey I'm serious! Very informative, to the point and well thought out. The exact opposite of one of my posts!!!

[HokieDNA01]

Hey Awesome. I recognize that pic of your bike. Do you live never the Gap? If so what is your name? Are you the imfamous Tyler? Just Curious.

[tached1000rr]

Ok let me put a disclaimer out here regarding the advice from the Awesome, when he says maximum he means it (think racing, or balls out on the gap), so what he is describing should be taken in the context of trying to go as fast as you can, which we know unlike him most of us do not ride to that level on the street. I seriously would love for him to work with me on my riding though! Hell on the street I'm not even sure he uses the damn brakes! I'm just saying this comes from a guy that's not letting out of it regardless of the lead he has, he only knows one way and it's fast as hell.

In other words, Michael Jordan might be able to help you out with your b-ball skills, but that's not going to make you Michael Jordan.

[MissHell]

Originally Posted by Trip

Very nice dude, great read.

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Very informative, to the point and well thought out.

I agree. Thank you! Picture was helpful too.

Awesome - can you come to Hawaii and critique my riding?

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Originally Posted by MissHell

I agree. Thank you! Picture was helpful too.

Awesome - can you come to Hawaii and critique my riding?

Shit if you're buying he might consider it!!!

[The Awesome]

Originally Posted by HokieDNA01

Hey Awesome. I recognize that pic of your bike. Do you live never the Gap? If so what is your name? Are you the imfamous Tyler? Just Curious.

That depends on whether or not you're associated with local law enforcement.

Originally Posted by MissHell

Awesome - can you come to Hawaii and critique my riding?

Yes. I can definitely do that. Fly me out and I'll be there directly.

[Yamerhaw]

I think a lot of people confuse the terms "trail braking" and "backing it in"

The awesomes last post with the pic of him was Spot On about trail braking

[racedoll]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

I understand your pain though, are you more concerned with front end grip? Are you having problems with too much initial bite spooking you? Do your brakes tend to fade? It takes a lot of the "OH SHIT" away when the rear tire comes up a little during hard breaking for a turn. Just a thought. You may just need brake lines or pads to totally turn things around and give you confidence. Which is of course exactly what you need to be a great braker!

I just need to trust that my brakes will get me slowed down enough for the corner I want to take. It's not so much that I don't trust the bike or the brakes, it's myself that I question. I know my bike is quite capable but it's a wrong input from me that could result in an output of me.
I worked on this last year and am continuing to work on it this year. It's mainly on the back straight at Mid-Ohio that I struggle. This is partly why I can't break that 140 mark because I'm thinking about having to slow for the corners.... and before you say it, I don't think I'm that slow through them. A lot of times I catch people there but they pull me in the straights.

Brake pads I changed last year. I just put OEMs on because they are fine for me. Erik even rode the bike at the track a couple years ago and said the brakes were acceptable for me there, especially after they get warmed up. I trust his judgment.

Originally Posted by Trip

Rear brake is jello, it has no stopping power.

That is exactly how I feel! I hardly use it because I don't feel like it does anything, but I do on the street every once in a while just to train my brain.

Originally Posted by TIGGER

That was an AWESOME POST!!!! Seriously!

Great post THE AWESOME! And I agree, that bike looks familiar.

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Originally Posted by racedoll

I just need to trust that my brakes will get me slowed down enough for the corner I want to take. It's not so much that I don't trust the bike or the brakes, it's myself that I question. I know my bike is quite capable but it's a wrong input from me that could result in an output of me.
I worked on this last year and am continuing to work on it this year. It's mainly on the back straight at Mid-Ohio that I struggle. This is partly why I can't break that 140 mark because I'm thinking about having to slow for the corners.... and before you say it, I don't think I'm that slow through them. A lot of times I catch people there but they pull me in the straights.

Brake pads I changed last year. I just put OEMs on because they are fine for me. Erik even rode the bike at the track a couple years ago and said the brakes were acceptable for me there, especially after they get warmed up. I trust his judgment.



That is exactly how I feel! I hardly use it because I don't feel like it does anything, but I do on the street every once in a while just to train my brain.



Great post THE AWESOME! And I agree, that bike looks familiar.

Well I'm no "The Awesome" but imho you are on the right track and the only thing that is going to "fix" your problem is practice. Good luck and be careful, Rome wasn't built in a day!!!