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Old 04-26-2011, 11:34 AM   #61
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And they don't take an hour to shut down or boot up. Now, 7 improved that a lot, but still.
Hate 7 with a passion. It fucking sucks....
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:00 PM   #62
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People who lay bricks, and clean pools probably don't need a Mac (unless they just want a quiet, reliable computer).
Have you heard a business grade Dell lately? You won't, because they're virtually silent.

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Hate 7 with a passion. It fucking sucks....
Actually 7 is fine. It's like a thoroughly patched and fixed Vista. Trouble is that all of the PC manufacturers want to throw the 64 bit version at you, with all the attendant compatibility issues.
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:50 PM   #63
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I think the only software you need in law school is a word processor and Google.
Well I think its just word processor and internet access. And thats the thing. I can pretty much do anything they need to do on in Law school on my Blackberry. But they use Macs. I think the two main reasons are image and the second is it isn't their money.

When the netbook motherboard died my brother decided to try a Mac. He used friends Macs and decided to buy one. He likes it but doesn't love it. He hates that they dumb down the OS. Some things he used to do with a PC are made to be next to imposable to do unless you have a lot of knowledge on how they are set up.

I still can't get into them. They don't impress me at all. I still think they are too expensive for what they are. The laptop shells look pretty good but I'm not a fan of the keys. The fact that the keys are lighted I do like.

One thing I will say about the Law students using the Mac and not needing it is I'm all for getting what you want/like. I didn't need an R6 but thats what I wanted.

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Apple has always been very good at locking down university deals. I don't think it's an image thing.
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And they don't take an hour to shut down or boot up. Now, 7 improved that a lot, but still.
Take an hour to shut down? My mother is using my old shop computer. I closed the shop at least 3 years ago. I think we are going on 4 years. The shop was open for 3 years. So its a 7 year old computer. It can shut down and restart in about 15-30 seconds.

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Take an hour to shut down? My mother is using my old shop computer. I closed the shop at least 3 years ago. I think we are going on 4 years. The shop was open for 3 years. So its a 7 year old computer. It can shut down and restart in about 15-30 seconds.

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Don't load up a bunch of crap and you don't have to wait. That simple concept seems to elude most people
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Apple has always been very good at locking down university deals. I don't think it's an image thing.
It has nothing to do with with a University deal as far as I know. These are not supplied by the University.

My old business partner went to a school that was all on computer. You had to get a computer from there to go. From what I remember the computer was giving to them. Anyway I don't know what they have now but it was a Toshiba.

And yes it is an image thing for most of them.

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My desktop is about 6 months older then the one mom is using because I bought it for the shop but decided to keep it and buy another one for the shop when it opened. I didn't have an external for the longest time and my computer got so bad it did take an hour to shut down and start up. My brother stopped over one day to use my printer and it was one of the few times that my computer was shut off. He said next time he was tossing it out of the window. I told him to wait in line.

One thing my brother said in the first 2-4 weeks of owning the Mac was that it didn't seem as fast as the day he bought it. He wasn't impressed with that.

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It has nothing to do with with a University deal as far as I know. These are not supplied by the University.

My old business partner went to a school that was all on computer. You had to get a computer from there to go. From what I remember the computer was giving to them. Anyway I don't know what they have now but it was a Toshiba.

And yes it is an image thing for most of them.

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So a law student who's already racking up 60-100K in debt is going to decide to buy Apple just because of its image. Maybe for some, but I doubt that is the biggest reason.

First, law students aren't like most of you guys. Most of them don't dick around with computers. They're not self-taught handymen. They don't know how to install cards or upgrade anything. They don't re-root their Android phone. Not would it be a good use of their time. They just want stuff that works.

Second, with regards to laptops - Seems like most others are thick & heavy, or look like a 1980's Cylon fighter. And what about customer service and accessories?

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Fonts.

Most people don't realize it's the single largest boot load, time-wise.

The primary reason for why systems take long to boot is from loading too many fonts.

People who have never loaded a graphics program have much slimmer systems. These programs tend to load over 100 fonts.
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