How old for belly button ring?

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

And how do you account for the millions upon millions of successful adults with tattoos and piercings that do not have any self-esteem issues beyond that of a societal norm?

That they actually have such issues and are successful, because they push themselves to try and escape what they see as failure.

How do you account for all of the people who eat "American Cheese", but don't weigh 450 lbs?

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

And how do you account for the millions upon millions of successful adults with tattoos and piercings that do not have any self-esteem issues beyond that of a societal norm?

How do you account for the people that eat american cheese that don't have any health problems beyond the societal norm?

[anthonyk]

Leaving aside adults for a minute, I'd guess there are plenty of parents out there who don't want to encourage fashion trends that seem to sexualize teenage (and younger) girls. I'd put a belly button ring squarely in that category.

Establishing the morals you want your kid to live by as an adult is just as important as establishing good nutrition.

[HokieDNA01]

Damn it now I want a grilled cheese!

[Rangerscott]

Originally Posted by HokieDNA01

Damn it now I want a grilled cheese!

That shouldnt be difficult since you should be in the kitchen.

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by Rangerscott

That shouldnt be difficult since you should be in the kitchen.

[HokieDNA01]

I should be in the kitchen but i'm heading to the track (tomorrow)

[the chi]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Personal experience and the contents of every trailer park, that I've ever seen.

Sooooo...Azoomm, myself, Ontwo, and a few others round here are trash, with poor self esteem and body image because we have big tattoos and piercings and we belong in the trailer park?

Damn, wish somebody had told me that...

Originally Posted by Kaneman

And how do you account for the millions upon millions of successful adults with tattoos and piercings that do not have any self-esteem issues beyond that of a societal norm?

What he said.

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

That they actually have such issues and are successful, because they push themselves to try and escape what they see as failure.

Hmmmm, never saw myself as a failure in any way shape or form...how bout the rest of you with body adornment? Are you all secretly failures at heart who decorate yourselves to show you really are trash but are making a go of being a success?

Maybe you should reconsider that train of thought...you just grouped a huge amount of folks into a very small box that probably isnt correct. Im not saying that you are all wrong, but putting everyone with tattoos and piercings into the trailer trash loser group is probably a bit narrow minded. Tattoos are pretty main stream these days.

As far as the piercings and tats go, even tho Im not a parent, I advise anyone, especially youngins asking about mine to wait until they are old enough to understand the repercussions and able to make a wise decision (like dont get that shit on your face, or your neck, or anywhere it could negatively impact your future). Whether they listen or not I cant control, but Im in the, wait till youre old enough to sign/pay/accept the consequences group. I didnt get my first tat till I was in my twenties. I told my sisters all this, they still went out as soon as they hit 18 and got shitty tats in not great locations. Cant control them and they were legal adults.

I also tell them not to go cheap, to see the artists work before they let some drunk/high guy put it on their body, and to get something original, not the springbreak dolphin that everyone and they brother/sister/cousin, etc has...that may or may not live in the trailer park.

[Papa_Complex]

I was endeavouring to show how ridiculous his original premise was, but he never caught on

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

I was endeavouring to show how ridiculous his original premise was, but he never caught on

I'm pretty sure my "crystal meth" post was pretty good evidence I was on to you the whole time. Fuck face.