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Old 12-16-2009, 04:23 PM   #61
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Respect is earned, not given.
In the case of an officer I would say respect is given until lost.
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:31 PM   #62
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In the case of an officer I would say respect is given until lost.
And I would say as an officer of the law employed to deal with the worst displays of human behavior on a regular basis, and not knowing what one individual may have just gone through, respect is duty bound to all citizens through the point that force is warranted in defense or compliance of just laws, no matter the offense. An officer of the law must be up above it and egotistically disconnected from the situations he deals with. Testosterone and a need for dominance must not influence his decisions and behaviors.

This is for his own safety, but largely because it is the right thing to do in a nation that flaunts its "freedom" on the world stage.
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:38 PM   #63
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Shouldn't Avatard be in here spouting some anti-cop propoganda about how they have meetings every morning and choose an old person to tase for no reason?
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Old 12-16-2009, 05:06 PM   #64
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Shouldn't Avatard be in here spouting some anti-cop propoganda about how they have meetings every morning and choose an old person to tase for no reason?
Then who is he going to get to enforce his juice labeling regulations?
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Old 12-16-2009, 05:20 PM   #65
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Shouldn't Avatard be in here spouting some anti-cop propoganda about how they have meetings every morning and choose an old person to tase for no reason?
Sounds like you have an Avaboner, I've never read him say anything to that effect, or even close to it.
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:39 PM   #66
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Sorry you can try to make excuses why it's fine, but it still will piss off the public and make the cops job that much harder because we just see them as money making schemes.
I'm not trying to make excuses as to why it is ok to hate them or not give them respect. People do that shit on their own for lesser reasons. I was just trying to highlight a different side of the argument.

I'm not upset with law enforcement in the first place.

And our view of law being flexible was in different circumstances. In general yes the law is flexible, it is something the government controls and changes as it sees fit. I was saying that a specific law such as a speed limit can't be flexible on conditions. The only flexibility on whether you get a ticket or not is the officer's discretion not because the speed limit sign has an asterisk next to it.
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