How would you go about laying your bike down? - Page 8

askmrjesus · 11-11-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The Awesome

The bottom line is that if you arrive at "crash on purpose" as your solution, you need to go back to square one and relearn how to handle panic situations. Crashing on purpose is not a skill, it's something you hear about at a bar from a 55 year old Harley rider that thinks front brakes are a liability.

Um, no. The bottom line is that if you ride a motorcycle you should be open to doing whatever it takes to keep your ass alive.

Knowing how to lay a bike down is an actual skill, it's just not one that you possess.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go out to my garage, and find the asshole who's been parking his no brakes Harley in there, and lying about my age at the bar.

JC

derf · 11-11-2009, 11:23 AM

This is generaly how I imagine myself laying down my bike on purpose, well, minus the 2nd guy, and I finish taking out the 1st guy quicker and rescue the chick and have plenty of time to escape

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAXjgTlstHs

This is pretty much another good way to do it, fighting terroistas and rescuing american hostages.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPjWrDmsZ0

Avatard · 11-12-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tached1000rr

Just wondering if any of you ever think about what technique you will/would/have used to lay your bike down intentionally? Say for instance a car pull out in front of you and there's no where to go, your options are to lay it down or hit the car. Do you have the skills to lay your bike down in time or do you panic and plow into the car?

My father-in-law had to lay his bike down yesterday when a guy pulled out into his path, I have yet to talk with him about the specifics but it gave me an idea for a thread for this section that we may be able to gain some insight on from other's experiences.

Obstacle immediately ahead? Probably would lay it down on the left side if I could. The bars tend to grab the ground, making the bike slide with the rear tire leading. This thus angles the bike in a manner that if anything, may direct you towards the shoulder, which is where you wanna head if you can (and the very thing you're avoiding isn't actually to your right).

Smittie61984 · 11-12-2009, 06:47 PM

Seems to me the longer the rubber is contacting the road the better and faster you stop. I don't see the benefit of having the bike between you and the car unless you plan to slide under a semi-truck.

I'm guessing most people try to hang on to the bike as long as possible and slide by complete panic. I think this fucker still has his hand on the brake hoping he can save it...

Kerry_129 · 11-12-2009, 06:57 PM

Yup. Unless you're about to get decapitated by something (trailer) or have very compromised traction (off-pavement/hydroplaning/oil on tires/snow/etc.), those precious few seconds spent dicking around 'laying it down' would be far better spent braking and/or steering to far more effectively scrub off speed and change direction. It's not like once your ass hits the pavement it magically looses momentum & quits traveling in the same vector the bike was moving when you separate. Now if you brake/swerve so hard that you loose traction and low-side, that's one thing - but to me that's simply loosing it in an avoidance maneuver, not laying it down on purpose.

tached1000rr · 11-13-2009, 12:22 AM

Well according to my wife, the insurance co. is going to total my father in law's bike

The guy that pulled out in front of him admitted to causing the spill. Not sure he's going to bother with buying it back, I think he plans to apply whatever funds he receives on another bike, I suggested he look into the Buells, but in the past he's been interested in the V-strom as well.

fnfalman · 11-15-2009, 03:54 AM

Before I can "lay a bike down" to avoid an obstacle, I gotta go get me a piece of shit Hardly-Ableson, some assless chaps, a skull bandana, some stupid looking sunshades and a ragged out fat bitch with cellulites on her ass.

Smittie61984 · 11-15-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fnfalman

Before I can "lay a bike down" to avoid an obstacle, I gotta go get me a piece of shit Hardly-Ableson, some assless chaps, a skull bandana, some stupid looking sunshades and a ragged out fat bitch with cellulites on her ass.

I never got the point of Chaps on a motorcycle. It doesn't offer protection in the one place I want a whole lot of protection. I'd prefer wearing just the part they cut out.

racedoll · 11-16-2009, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984

I never got the point of Chaps on a motorcycle. It doesn't offer protection in the one place I want a whole lot of protection. I'd prefer wearing just the part they cut out.

That would be a sight to see!

askmrjesus · 11-16-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by racedoll

That would be a sight to see!

Or not.

JC

11-11-2009, 11:23 AM	#72
derf token jewboy Join Date: Nov 2008 Moto: CBR 900, KLR ugly ass duckling, Gas Man Posts: 10,799	This is generaly how I imagine myself laying down my bike on purpose, well, minus the 2nd guy, and I finish taking out the 1st guy quicker and rescue the chick and have plenty of time to escape http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAXjgTlstHs This is pretty much another good way to do it, fighting terroistas and rescuing american hostages. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPjWrDmsZ0 __________________

11-12-2009, 06:47 PM	#74
Smittie61984 I give Squids a bad name Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fly Over State Moto: 1996 CBR600 F3 (AKA the Flying Turd) Posts: 4,742	Seems to me the longer the rubber is contacting the road the better and faster you stop. I don't see the benefit of having the bike between you and the car unless you plan to slide under a semi-truck. I'm guessing most people try to hang on to the bike as long as possible and slide by complete panic. I think this fucker still has his hand on the brake hoping he can save it... __________________ lifts - R.I.P.

11-12-2009, 06:57 PM	#75
Kerry_129 Semi-reformed Squid Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 531	Yup. Unless you're about to get decapitated by something (trailer) or have very compromised traction (off-pavement/hydroplaning/oil on tires/snow/etc.), those precious few seconds spent dicking around 'laying it down' would be far better spent braking and/or steering to far more effectively scrub off speed and change direction. It's not like once your ass hits the pavement it magically looses momentum & quits traveling in the same vector the bike was moving when you separate. Now if you brake/swerve so hard that you loose traction and low-side, that's one thing - but to me that's simply loosing it in an avoidance maneuver, not laying it down on purpose. Last edited by Kerry_129; 11-12-2009 at 07:01 PM..

11-15-2009, 03:54 AM	#77
fnfalman Europhile Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SoCal Moto: Aprilia RS125, Aprilia SR50 Factory, Aprilia Tuono, BMW Rockster, KTM 990 Adventure Posts: 1,875	Before I can "lay a bike down" to avoid an obstacle, I gotta go get me a piece of shit Hardly-Ableson, some assless chaps, a skull bandana, some stupid looking sunshades and a ragged out fat bitch with cellulites on her ass. __________________ *Cogito Ergo Vroom - I think therefore I ride*

11-13-2009, 12:22 AM	#76
tached1000rr WERA White Plate Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NC Moto: 2009 GSXR 1300 Posts: 2,448	Well according to my wife, the insurance co. is going to total my father in law's bike The guy that pulled out in front of him admitted to causing the spill. Not sure he's going to bother with buying it back, I think he plans to apply whatever funds he receives on another bike, I suggested he look into the Buells, but in the past he's been interested in the V-strom as well.