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Old 06-04-2009, 09:25 PM   #71
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That was in Georgia actually. He was convicted of murder if I remember right. Though I think the lying bitches should really be the one in jail. I somewhat empathize with the father and believe he was manipulated by the daughters. Anyways.

Not saying it's right but I wonder how much crime woudl go down if you were able to straight up murder someone who tried to rob you at gun point and after shooting them and disabling them able to put a bullet into their head to finish the job.

I also believe that once you break into someone's house and try to leave, armed or not, that the homeowner should be allowed to grab whatever scoped high powered rifle they have and pop one into the back of your head as you are running out. Or if someone is breaking into your vehicle that if you are able to get your rifle out the window without having the criminal notice. That you should be able to put a sniper strategic shot through their head/neck/back/foot/whatever with no warning at all.
I didn't say where that one was. It was the exchange student that I mentioned was killed in Texas.

If you could straight up murder someone who was trying to rib you at gun point then there would be a whole lot of old grudges being dealt with through the use of drop pieces.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:52 PM   #72
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I didn't say where that one was. It was the exchange student that I mentioned was killed in Texas.

If you could straight up murder someone who was trying to rib you at gun point then there would be a whole lot of old grudges being dealt with through the use of drop pieces.
The whole idea of the death penalty, (which I'm for) or in this case, the "instant death penalty", being a deterrent is bogus.

"For 2007, the average Murder Rate of Death Penalty States was 5.5, while the average Murder Rate of States without the Death Penalty was 3.1"

Why? Because the type of people who are inclined to kill people during the commission of a crime, are fucking idiots. They either don't consider the consequences, or don't a give a fuck.

No law you could impose, is going to make these people any smarter. It would, as you pointed out, probably drive the Murder rate up, instead of down.

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Old 06-04-2009, 09:54 PM   #73
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If you could straight up murder someone who was trying to rib you at gun point then there would be a whole lot of old grudges being dealt with through the use of drop pieces.
If someone wants to literally murder someone then they are going to find a way to do it regardless of law.

I just can't stand thieves. I don't make jack shit right now and I'm busting my ass trying to get through school to better myself. Making roughly $10 an hour with much of that time me hand digging a fucking hole or nearly getting hit by cars while standing on burning hot ass pavement for hours. Stealing $100 from me is like stealing 10hours (actually more after taxes) of my life. People should die for that.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:54 PM   #74
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If you could straight up murder someone who was trying to rib you at gun point then there would be a whole lot of old grudges being dealt with through the use of drop pieces.
Yeah, because that doesn't happen now. Nobody would ever think of that.
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:24 PM   #75
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But you see they didn't execute a successful heist and it was, in fact, murder.
I'm sorry but your replies sound like a true liberal (you're from Canada...so that explains it. LOL).

These two punks came in with gun pointed at the pharmacist's head demanding drugs. At that point, he had every right to blow his fuckin brains out. He just so happen to finish him off because he would of prolly ended up a veggie anyways at the expense of the taxpayer.

Killing a child in cold blood is Murder 1, not shooting an armed robber until he's dead.
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:27 PM   #76
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In truth I know what the guy did is wrong but I can tell you if I were on the jury I would have a hard time putting the guy in jail. Only 2 people in that store left there house intent on breaking the law and had malice and fore thought.

The man reacted to criminals and there right to be treated as humans ended when they pointed a guy at someone that was no threat to them. If he had been a police officer or a soldier that had been trained to deal with criminals then that would be different. The man was scared and amped up from having a gun pointed at him.

Think about it when you choose to get in a car after drinking you give up lots of rights. If pulled over its one of the few times when you can lose your license just for not blowing into a straw. I think that when you decide to use a gun in a crime the intented victims should be able to treat you as they see fit.

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Old 06-04-2009, 10:32 PM   #77
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Killing a child in cold blood is Murder 1, not shooting an UNarmed robber until he's dead.
Fixed.

Care to show the statute that backs up that statement, Mr. Perry fucking Mason?

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Old 06-04-2009, 10:39 PM   #78
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Fixed.

Care to show the statute that backs up that statement, Mr. Perry fucking Mason?

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Well now you've gone and done it! I can't blow him out of the water for making obviously incorrect statements about the issue at hand, so now I'm stuck saying lame things like I'm only a liberal when I don't agree with him.... and stuff.
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:55 PM   #79
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In truth I know what the guy did is wrong
Well there you go.

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but I can tell you if I were on the jury I would have a hard time putting the guy in jail.
Not if you follow the law.

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Only 2 people in that store left there house intent on breaking the law and had malice and fore thought.
Doesn't matter. The pharmacist decided to murder someone while at work. The fact that he didn't think of it before he left the house, is immaterial.

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The man reacted to criminals and there right to be treated as humans ended when they pointed a guy at someone that was no threat to them.
His right to treat them as animals, ended when they were no longer a threat to him.


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If he had been a police officer or a soldier that had been trained to deal with criminals then that would be different. The man was scared and amped up from having a gun pointed at him.
Watch the video again. Does he look scared to you? He didn't even glance at the dude he was supposed to be so afraid of, on his way to grab his second gun.

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Think about it
I did.

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when you choose to get in a car after drinking you give up lots of rights.
True.

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If pulled over its one of the few times when you can lose your license just for not blowing into a straw.
Also true.

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I think that when you decide to use a gun in a crime the intented victims should be able to treat you as they see fit.
False, and not even close to what anyone would call justice. Can I rape their mom? Set them on fire? Set their mom on fire? No.

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PS Jesus feel free to post your thoughts with out picking mine apart line by line.
If would of have a been a lot easier, if you just would have said that at the beginning.

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Old 06-04-2009, 11:05 PM   #80
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Well now you've gone and done it! I can't blow him out of the water for making obviously incorrect statements about the issue at hand, so now I'm stuck saying lame things like I'm only a liberal when I don't agree with him.... and stuff.
Sorry, that was rude of me.

I just really wanted to use the phrase, "Mr. Perry fucking Mason", and I lost my head.

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