be careful what you ask for

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by LeeNetworX

How about his physical strength, bigger size, and police training? Anyone?

How about:

"I just got this uniform back from the cleaners, and she smells like cabbage, so... ZAP!"

JC

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by The Chi

Thats not even remotely the same situation and fails to provide a good counter for your argument.

What he was doing was illegal. What this guy did, other than showing he was a cissy with poor people skills was, while strange and a bit over the top, was not illegal. You break the law, you fail to follow the orders of the arresting officer, you pay the consequences. She made very clear that she thought she was above the law, and she was not going to do as he asked, well, she suffered the consequences.

And AGAIN, she was 72 years old, as she made VERY CLEAR. Bubba is a big boy. If he'd grabbed her and slammed her down to cuff her as you see in police vids, he'd have broken her arm or hip.

This is all I'm really trying to say....

What this guy did, other than showing he was a cissy with poor people skills was

but there is plenty of potential for topic creep...

Should the women have been tasered?
No

The use of the Taser in this situation was inappropriate and reflects poorly on the officer and the departments training regimen. This isn't a reflection on taser use overall, this is based on the video.

Based on the physical difference between the officer and the women, the actions of the women and the environment portrayed in the dash cam, there is no evidence to suggest that physical force could not be efficiently used to subdue the women. A 130lb ninny in the academy should be able to subdue that women effectively using two hands within 5 seconds.

Departments have plenty of leeway on implementation of taser guidelines but from what I can see the shittier and more corrupt the department the more happy they are to zap somebody.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by RACER X

vid?

Aw shit, let me re-find it and see if I can edit it. It's like forever long. Basically, the guy refuses to sign the ticket the cop pulls him out of his car. The guy still refuses and the cop tasers him. The look on his kid's faces when the cop zaps him is priceless! Yep, this one is definitely going to civil court!

[RACER X]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Aw shit, let me re-find it and see if I can edit it. It's like forever long. Basically, the guy refuses to sign the ticket the cop pulls him out of his car. The guy still refuses and the cop tasers him. The look on his kid's faces when the cop zaps him is priceless! Yep, this one is definitely going to civil court!

well in TX refusal to sign is enough to goto jail. so zapping or jail, which is worse.......dunno.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by RACER X

well in TX refusal to sign is enough to goto jail. so zapping or jail, which is worse.......dunno.

What's the big deal about signing a ticket? I mean from either side? It seems silly to me.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by RACER X

well in TX refusal to sign is enough to goto jail. so zapping or jail, which is worse.......dunno.

Zapping, then jail.

[skiergirl]

no sympathy here....while everyone can argue all day long the cop broke no law and the woman DID. Anyone that antagonizes a cop on the side of a road is asking for trouble and don't whine when you get it.

You comply and take it up in court not on the side of a road, and being old does not excuse you for anything.

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by RACER X

well in TX refusal to sign is enough to goto jail. so zapping or jail, which is worse.......dunno.

The two are unrelated.

One is law.
The other is technique.

[ericr]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

there is no evidence to suggest that physical force could not be efficiently used to subdue the women.

Actually, physically pulling her hands and arms to cuff her is as big a risk for injury as tasing is. Ask Tommy how easy old people's bones break. Compound fracture when you twist it around good and hard because she's struggling?

And you're bullshit example of a cop demanding blowjobs is totally unrelated. This cop was asking her to move to a safe area, nothing wrong with that.

ALL the blame in this instance falls on the old bitch. Who cares if she got tased for it??? I'm not losing sleep over that trailer trash giving a cop a hard time.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by ericr

Actually, physically pulling her hands and arms to cuff her is as big a risk for injury as tasing is. Ask Tommy how easy old people's bones break. Compound fracture when you twist it around good and hard because she's struggling?

And you're bullshit example of a cop demanding blowjobs is totally unrelated. This cop was asking her to move to a safe area, nothing wrong with that.

ALL the blame in this instance falls on the old bitch. Who cares if she got tased for it??? I'm not losing sleep over that trailer trash giving a cop a hard time.

Wow Eric! One video of her being stupid doesn't make someone's Mom, Grandma, sister, etc "trailer trash", a "dumb bitch", etc does it? I've seen video of you engaging in sexual deviancy, does that mean that you shouldn't be allowed around children or hold a job dealing with the general public? I agree that she made a foolish mistake and I also have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who sticks their hand in the dog kennel and gets bit but damn, that's pretty harsh.