Bin laden dead

[Sixxxxer]

Originally Posted by tallywacker

Who cares, those that hate us are always going to hate us.


Just like there will always be idiots that believe 9/11 was fake, Obama is from Africa, and Bin Laden is still alive.

9/11 Certainly wasnt fake...you dont just "Fake 3,000 People Dying" Do I think a plane hit the pentagon? No...And nothing you do or say will convince me otherwise.

Bin laden on the otherhand? I'm happy he's dead. I dont second guess him being dead...But I dont really think it it changes anything. Do troops get to come home? No...if anything, it's gonna make for more outbursts or some young hotshot al queda who thinks he's the predecessor to Bin Laden trying to stir shit up.

[Archren]

Originally Posted by azoomm

We just created a martyr.

I think it's going to get worse. Now, much worse.

Point. But, we didn't create the martyr.. he knew what he was doing from the very beginning by plotting and taking credit for the 9/11 attacks. So.. he signed his own death warrant ten years ago. And, as someone mentioned in an article, I'm glad his death was up close and personal, double-tap in the face, and not some anonymous drone plane.

That being said... on a mildly amusing note.. one of his wives threw him under the bus: http://battleland.blogs.time.com/201...rndest-things/

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by Archren

Point. But, we didn't create the martyr.. he knew what he was doing from the very beginning by plotting and taking credit for the 9/11 attacks. So.. he signed his own death warrant ten years ago. And, as someone mentioned in an article, I'm glad his death was up close and personal, double-tap in the face, and not some anonymous drone plane.

That being said... on a mildly amusing note.. one of his wives threw him under the bus: http://battleland.blogs.time.com/201...rndest-things/

Meh, we aren't dealing with logical people in a logical situation. This is one of those deals where... OH yeah, well you killed MY pawn so I'm going to get even... It doesn't matter who started it, it is just constant and will continue as long as someone is willing to pick up the cause. I'm quite sure there are fanatics out there that will take up his cause. I mean, he does have 25 or 26 children.

I heard about her using his name, I also saw a report that he used one of his wives as a human shied. Curious if he was getting even...

[defector]

So am I the only one who had flashbacks of every "asteroid apocalypse" (Armageddon, Deep Impact, Fifth Element, etc) movie of the last 10 years or so as Obama was walking up to the podium (before they put the graphic on the bottom of the screen)?

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by defector

So am I the only one who had flashbacks of every "asteroid apocalypse" (Armageddon, Deep Impact, Fifth Element, etc) movie of the last 10 years or so as Obama was walking up to the podium ?

I'm guessing you were.

[Papa_Complex]

So has Trump claimed responsibility for it yet?

[Homeslice]

Can't ever satisfy the Muslim community, lol:

Islamic scholars criticize bin Laden's sea burial
By HAMZA HENDAWI, Associated Press Hamza Hendawi, Associated Press Mon May 2, 1:25 pm ET

CAIRO – Muslim clerics said Monday that Osama bin Laden's burial at sea was a violation of Islamic tradition that may further provoke militant calls for revenge attacks against American targets.

Although there appears to be some room for debate over the burial — as with many issues within the faith — a wide range of senior Islamic scholars interpreted it as a humiliating disregard for the standard Muslim practice of placing the body in a grave with the head pointed toward the holy city of Mecca.

Sea burials can be allowed, they said, but only in special cases where the death occurred aboard a ship.

Bin Laden's burial at sea "runs contrary to the principles of Islamic laws, religious values and humanitarian customs," said Sheik Ahmed al-Tayeb, the grand Imam of Cairo's al-Azhar mosque, Sunni Islam's highest seat of learning.

A radical cleric in Lebanon, Omar Bakri Mohammed, said, "The Americans want to humiliate Muslims through this burial, and I don't think this is in the interest of the U.S. administration."

A U.S. official said the burial decision was made after concluding that it would have been difficult to find a country willing to accept the remains. There was also speculation about worry that a grave site could have become a rallying point for militants.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive national security matters.

President Barack Obama said the remains had been handled in accordance with Islamic custom, which requires speedy burial, and the Pentagon later said the body was placed into the waters of the northern Arabian Sea after adhering to traditional Islamic procedures — including washing the corpse — aboard the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson.

But the Lebanese cleric Mohammed called it a "strategic mistake" that was bound to stoke rage.

In Washington, CIA director Leon Panetta warned that "terrorists almost certainly will attempt to avenge" the killing of the mastermind behind the Sept. 11 attacks.

"Bin Laden is dead," Panetta wrote in a memo to CIA staff. "Al-Qaida is not."

According to Islamic teachings, the highest honor to be bestowed on the dead is giving the deceased a swift burial, preferably before sunset. Those who die while traveling at sea can have their bodies committed to the bottom of the ocean if they are far off the coast, according to Islamic tradition.

"They can say they buried him at sea, but they cannot say they did it according to Islam," Mohammed al-Qubaisi, Dubai's grand mufti, said about bin Laden's burial. "If the family does not want him, it's really simple in Islam: You dig up a grave anywhere, even on a remote island, you say the prayers and that's it."

"Sea burials are permissible for Muslims in extraordinary circumstances," he added. "This is not one of them."

But Mohammed Qudah, a professor of Islamic law at the University of Jordan, said burying the Saudi-born bin Laden at sea was not forbidden if there was nobody to receive the body and provide a Muslim burial.

"The land and the sea belong to God, who is able to protect and raise the dead at the end of times for Judgment Day," he said. "It's neither true nor correct to claim that there was nobody in the Muslim world ready to receive bin Laden's body."

Clerics in Iraq, where an offshoot of al-Qaida is blamed for the death of thousands of people since 2003, also criticized the U.S. action. One said it only benefited fish.

"If a man dies on a ship that is a long distance from land, then the dead man should be buried at the sea," said Shiite cleric Ibrahim al-Jabari. "But if he dies on land, then he should be buried in the ground, not to be thrown into the sea. Otherwise, this would be only inviting fish to a banquet."

The Islamic tradition of a quick burial was the subject of intense debate in Iraq in 2003 when U.S. forces embalmed the bodies of Saddam Hussein's two sons after they were killed in a firefight. Their bodies were later shown to media.

"What was done by the Americans is forbidden by Islam and might provoke some Muslims," said another Islamic scholar from Iraq, Abdul-Sattar al-Janabi, who preaches at Baghdad's famous Abu Hanifa mosque. "It is not acceptable and it is almost a crime to throw the body of a Muslim man into the sea. The body of bin Laden should have been handed over to his family to look for a country or land to bury him."

Prominent Egyptian Islamic analyst and lawyer Montasser el-Zayat said bin Laden's sea burial was designed to prevent his grave from becoming a shrine. But an option was an unmarked grave.

"They don't want to see him become a symbol, but he is already a symbol in people's hearts."

[Sixxxxer]

[EpyonXero]

[EpyonXero]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

So has Trump claimed responsibility for it yet?