More woman bias

[derf]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

FWIW I'm not defensive, I just won't let an obvious oportunity to argue slide by....

Sounds like you are on the defensive to me. I don't think you can hack it here with the big boys. Stop being such a nazi about everything and just accept the fact that your GF is a (HOT) girl, and one day she might grow up to be a (MILF) woman.

[Fleck750]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Why make a blatant statement that actually covers a few "girls" on this forum besides my gf and not expect an answer. Seriously, what difference does it make to you what color gear other women wear.

Hey you're the one who made the statement about "grown ass women"... I didn't know that girls didn't become women until they are old like you! Hahahaha!

Btw why don't you go on up to the base and explain to all these "girls" that have just come home from Iraq how they aren't adults in your eyes?

FWIW I'm not defensive, I just won't let an obvious oportunity to argue slide by....

Being that the original post got blown waaaaaay off topic, I shoulda kept my mouth shut. Seems OK that men can state what they don't like about women, but I add my 2 cents and it gets pummeled.

It's really OK. I don't care what color anyone wears, dates or rides.

It just irks me that the m/c gear that is made to fit a woman always has to come in pink or blue. I guess if women stopped buying these colors, they would stop making them.

But fortunately for me, being the fat ass that I am, I get to wear men sizes and my color choices are much broader.

And why is it OK for the men to yank your chain over the age of the female you date, but I can't? Yes, being old makes everyone else seem young.

But I wouldn't trade places with them for anything.

[derf]

Originally Posted by Fleck750

Seems OK that men can state what they don't like about women, but I add my 2 cents and it gets pummeled.

You are completely correct

[Fleck750]

Originally Posted by derf

You are completely correct

You guys need a mens section to post this stuff in.

[derf]

Originally Posted by Fleck750

You guys need a mens section to post this stuff in.

Again correct

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by CasterTroy

Life is pretty dull when you play it safe. If you don't take a chance you never reap the reward.

I see so MANY of you post on here about your huge TV's or new gadgets and how everyone should jump on board and ride the "new fad" train.

We all drool over bikes and goodies and dream about what we'd do if we HAD money....yet I see JUST as many posts about empty hearts and how your personal lives suck. About how you never can get laid (married), or your spouse or girlfriend isn't fulfilling you....granted...those that post that kind of stuff really aren’t self-aware enough to know that’s what they are posting, but basically it boils down to they aren't being fulfilled.

Some of you (men) are so very bitter and or afraid of putting your heart out there that you can’t FIND a significant other, so you focus on yourself 100% (BTW…that’s not an effective way of FINDING anyone either….just so you know) and you sit among your toys and “things” and you’re miserable.

Trust me when I say that that misery comes thru in posts.

Yes my first marriage failed. And yes I DID learn a great deal from it. While I applied SOME of the principle of “pleasing your spouse” to my first marriage, I didn’t make it my top priority. In the end, she wanted something other than what I could offer her….something a LOT of people revert to when they’re not willing to take a chance and put their heart out there and risk having someone damage it……THINGS…….she wanted a house in a gated community, as well as a lake home in the neighborhood all the VP’s of her company lived in. And since I was just a mere engineer with no aspirations of being a vice president of ANYTHING…..she chose a VP at her company who HAD all that. She left to pursue him and after 5 years of stringing her along, dumping her, running back to her, dumping her……..etc….his wife found out about their affair and he’s now out with the shirt on his back sleeping on my ex’s couch

That’s basically what happened. I’m not bitter, nor do I resent her. She just wasn’t willing to take the chance on letting anyone in, for fear of getting hurt. Her whole life was full of hurt and full of abandonment so I can’t say I blame her. However I WAS willing to take that chance, and I DID get hurt. I DID fail. But I put on my big girl panties, I quit crying and I tried again.

If you fail at something once are you forever a failure? If your favorite team loses a game are they labeled losers forever? Even if you try and fail, it doesn't mean that you didn't learn something, it means you had the BALLS to try in the first place. And if that try failed….you’ve got even bigger balls to TRY again. Anyone who writes off someone because they had a failure, and feels they have nothing to ever offer up, is just a fucking moron, especially if they’ve not even TRIED themselves to begin with.

Now, I’m a few years older, and knew what I was looking for. And at the TOP of the list was finding someone that knew who they were, and knew what they wanted….and were willing to take a huge risk to get it.

I found that.

And granted….YES, I may very well get hurt one day..I may get taken advantage of….but DAMN whatta ride I’m on right now! I could die today and I’d have lived a totally fulfilled complete life. And I don’t need a DAMN thing but my wife and kids.

Can you can sit there and say that?.

Why yes I can! Seriously, I am reasonably happy. I am very self aware, believe it or not. I know what I want and what I need. Again, I honestly don't need another person to be happy. Apparently, you do...and that's just fine. I'm not knocking your way of life am I? It's not completely about "taking chances", it's also about risk verses reward. IMHO the reward isn't worth the risk, in fact I don't necessarily see all of the "rewards" that you do. People like you need that other person to feel whole. You'll stick your hand in the dog's mouth over and over again just on the off chance that it won't bite you this time. I can admire and appreciate that you believe yourself to be "happier" than I am. I understand that you and your ilk believe that the only way for a man to be happy is for him to be married to the "right woman" and have some kids. Okay, that's cool. I'm not sure that the millions of men that lost 1/2 their worth and pay child support on kids they almost never see would agree with you...

When someone posts about getting a new toy, I'm not sure how you read that they are really "miserable", exactly. I honestly don't believe that my personal life sucks...The thing is, you really don't know anything about me. You only know whatever bull crap I post on this forum. Just like everyone else. For all we know, you get drunk and beat your wife every weekend. FAWK, Amorok, draws his wife hot bubble bathes with rose petals and candles every night. You never know. I've had people debate monogamy/morrality with me and someone else PMs me that she cheated on her BF and had to have an abortion. Another person argues ethics only to find out the she cheated on her husband with a member of this forum. Hell, you don't even really know the people the you associate with in real life, how can you claim to know someone on this forum?

BTW I understand that this post wasn't directed at me personally, but since certain aspects reflect things that I post, I thought that I'd respond as an opposing view point to all of the girlie "you go you sensitive man, you!!!" type responses you are sure to get.

Hey you may be in that 10% (or whatever) of marriages that are truly happy and satisfied with each other. You may live, laugh and grow old together just like in the stories or a Norman Rockwell painting, I honestly wish you luck! Seriously. I won't decide for you what you need to be happy and you can't decide for me what will make me happy. What's wrong with posting about new stuff? This is, for all intents and purposes, a forum dedicated to stuff. That's it for me, I'm gonna check the other threads and then be miserable with all of these "fads" and "gadgets" that I have acquired to attempt to fill the void in my heart....*sniffle*

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by azoomm

Well said Troy!! Bravo!

I'm sorry, but I don't understand all the angst toward a color. I wish women would get over it - I mean, really get over it and stop tearing other women down over the fact that they like what they like.

This. Except the Troy part....Hahahahaha!

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by The Chi

Are you flipping serious? How old are you, 12?

Im totally with Troy on this one. Being in a good and fulfilling relationship is not worrying about being taken advantage of or used, shit, if thats what you worry about, you are in the wrong relationship. You guys REALLY need to meet different women.

I failed the first time around too, we both did. I got hurt and burned more than just emotionally, but Im glad I reached out and found someone instead of sitting back, bitching and moaning about how those of us that are "happy" are delusional. Get a grip people. Happiness in a relationship isnt based on just what makes you happy, and if you think it is, you are suffering from some serious selfishness and immaturity. If/when your relationship fails, that will be one of the reasons.

Maybe you are misunderstanding what I'm trying to say....and it doesn't include "not worrying about being used or making only myself happy".

If a guy bends over backwards at anything a chick says or wants, then yes it is a recipe for failure because you are tying to send her to some fantasy land that doesn't exist She will only want more down the road. It is human nature. This is why alot of chicks like guys who are dicks....cause they know they have to work to get anything. It is sort of like a self fulfillment thing.

You need to make YOU happy first or change what needs to be done in order to accomplish it. Why people will remain miserable at the total expense of others "happiness" is beyond me.

[karl_1052]

Originally Posted by G-Rex

If the whole board would understand this one statement, life would be *so* much easier.

but so much more boring.

Originally Posted by Fleck750

You guys need a mens section to post this stuff in.

I thought Trip installed a dishwasher in the womens section so you wouldn't stray to the other parts of the board.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by HurricaneHeather

You're just an attention whore...admit it.

My new favorite sarcastic thing to say: If you're happy, then you're doing it wrong. My dad and I were saying that all day on Christmas.

I can't believe that I'm saying this but I actually agree with Lucille Ball here. If you seem happy, you must be covering up some deep down despair...