Bassplayers New Band - Page 9

Trip · 07-09-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Avatard

Hmm...shaky concept, Trip.

Lately, I write a lot of straight-for-the-jugular pop. Shit I couldn't, as a nearly 50-year-old-man, possibly get away with singing myself. Is it contrivance? Maybe. I only know it's what sometimes plays on the "radio in my head", and I usually try to jot it down when I dig that it's shit I'm actually writing in real time, and not something I heard from another artist just playing in my head (which also happens at least 60% of the time). It's probably a product of the fact that I have a teenage daughter, and the genre is "rubbing off".

If I produced this music, and had my 16-year-old daughter (a very talented vocalist) sing this shit, and it goes platinum, am I a sell-out?

no, your daughter would be the sellout according to what I said.

It's just a lucrative job for you.

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Faith p l u s o n e

damn, lol

Amber Lamps · 07-09-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Trip

no, your daughter would be the sellout according to what I said.

It's just a lucrative job for you.

damn, lol

yea bitch!

askmrjesus · 07-09-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Avatard

If I produced this music, and had my 16-year-old daughter (a very talented vocalist) sing this shit, and it goes platinum, am I a sell-out?

Nope, just a musician with a solid business plan.

Does anybody really believe that, "As I lay Dying" has some deep social issues they're trying to communicate?

No, they saw a Danzig concert, and decided they could make money yelling RAWWWR! into a microphone.

JC

Avatard · 07-09-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Trip

no, your daughter would be the sellout according to what I said.

It's just a lucrative job for you.

Many artists don't write their own music. Not every talented singer is also a gifted songwriter...so they sing other people's songs. How does this make them a sell-out?

Trip · 07-09-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Avatard

Many artists don't write their own music. Not every talented singer is also a gifted songwriter...so they sing other people's songs. How does this make them a sell-out?

If she is solely singing the music as a way to make lots of money and has no interest in it. Is it smart financially? Absolutely. That's why it's a sellout, you are comprimising your music to make bank.

AquaPython · 07-09-2009, 11:59 AM

no, thats still not being a sell out. a sell out would be like the band KISS , they started off trying to make music they liked, and their original fans liked, but then changed things about their music, to fit a wider, more generic range of people, solely for marketing and bottom line checks. when they started straying from the rock base to soft mushy ballads and showing up on lunchboxes and cartoons, that is being a sellout.

its the transition from being a genuine musician -> music business entrepreneur , that exploits people and their loyalties.

askmrjesus · 07-09-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaPython

no, thats still not being a sell out. a sell out would be like the band KISS , they started off trying to make music they liked, and their original fans liked, but then changed things about their music, to fit a wider, more generic range of people, solely for marketing and bottom line checks. when they started straying from the rock base to soft mushy ballads and showing up on lunchboxes and cartoons, that is being a sellout.

Then again, "Beth" is probably one of the best songs they ever made.

KISS is not a very good example. They didn't dress up like that based on some sort of musical integrity.

JC

Avatard · 07-09-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip

If she is solely singing the music as a way to make lots of money and has no interest in it. Is it smart financially? Absolutely. That's why it's a sellout, you are comprimising your music to make bank.

So singers who can't write their own material should only choose shitty songs that probably won't sell, or reach a wide audience?

Trip · 07-09-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Avatard

So singers who can't write their own material should only choose shitty songs that probably won't sell, or reach a wide public?

No, you can choose mainstream music if that is what you like. You have to comprimise yourself or your musical choice in some way.

Avatard · 07-09-2009, 12:09 PM

Remember; a musician also needs to eat, and their music has to reach enough of an audience that they can get HIRED in the first place. Music is almost always compromised thus, at least to some degree. At what point exactly does it become reprehensible? As soon as they are well fed?

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Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	Remember; a musician also needs to eat, and their music has to reach enough of an audience that they can get HIRED in the first place. Music is almost always compromised thus, at least to some degree. At what point exactly does it become reprehensible? As soon as they are well fed? __________________ Insert free thought here.