Plane Crash at Bagram AFB

EpyonXero · 04-30-2013, 11:03 PM

Video:
http://defensetech.org/2013/04/30/vi...crash-emerges/

goof2 · 04-30-2013, 11:12 PM

It is crazy to see a 747 just fall out of the sky like that.

Porkchop · 04-30-2013, 11:44 PM

Holy fuck.

shmike · 04-30-2013, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by goof2

It is crazy to see a 747 just fall out of the sky like that.

Agreed.

Totally wild.

defector · 04-30-2013, 11:58 PM

Damn. That thing looked like it was in a vertical stall.

goof2 · 05-01-2013, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by defector

Damn. That thing looked like it was in a vertical stall.

I think that is what happened. The initial stuff I have seen about it so far say that cargo wasn't properly secured and fell/slid to the back of the aircraft on takeoff. A sudden center of gravity change, particularly at takeoff, could cause an attitude change very quickly leading to a stall. At that altitude I don't think there is anything a pilot can do to recover. If the C of G moved far enough back I don't think a pilot can do anything regardless of the altitude.

fatbuckRTO · 05-01-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by goof2

I think that is what happened. The initial stuff I have seen about it so far say that cargo wasn't properly secured and fell/slid to the back of the aircraft on takeoff. A sudden center of gravity change, particularly at takeoff, could cause an attitude change very quickly leading to a stall. At that altitude I don't think there is anything a pilot can do to recover. If the C of G moved far enough back I don't think a pilot can do anything regardless of the altitude.

When I was there, all the aircraft took off and landed at pretty steep angles; I believe the airfield has a "combat" take-off and landing policy. I don't know if it qualifies as "combat" when you're talking about a 747, but a steeper-than-normal take-off attitude for a plane that size probably makes stalling a lot easier.

Disclaimer: not a pilot, I may be completely full of shit.

That said, RIP to the flight crew.

Particle Man · 05-01-2013, 10:04 PM

Jesus Christ....

Gas Man · 05-02-2013, 09:22 AM

Holy Christ!!

Papa_Complex · 05-02-2013, 02:05 PM

I saw a report that either al Qaeda or the Taliban were claiming responsibility for it. Yeah, right.

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