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10-20-2008, 11:42 PM | #1 | |
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The 12 has a peak torque of 84ftlbs, the 9 has 70 The 12 has peak HP of 103, the 9 has 92. The main difference is in the stroke of the engines. The 9 and the 12 have the same bore but the 9 is a short stroke engine. The 9 has a higher redline than the 12. The 9 is much more like an I-4 in that you need to keep it spun up to keep it in the peak torque and HP. The 12 has grunt from idle, but it runs out of gas up top. Both are noob friendly as long as you respect the torque. Many say that the handling is "twitchy". I don't get that at all. It's responsive, but very stable. You can put it into a turn and it stays there until you aim it elsewhere. My Uly was my first street bike. I had ridden dirt before but not street. Buells allow even beginner riders to handle with confidence. The only requirement is that you set the suspension to your weight. If you leave it out of wack, it will feel unstable, sluggish, twitchy. Now the 1125R or 1125CR, those will get you in trouble regardless. 12 grunt I-4 top end. Scary fun. |
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10-20-2008, 11:46 PM | #2 |
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This holds true with most all bikes.
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I get the twitchy comment... especially after riding the short wheelbase XB after riding my Ss... I do not think twitchy is the correct word... I'd say it was more 'hyper-responsive'... very little steering input required in comparison. To add to what these guys are saying... one thing that always caught me off guard with the Buell was it's tendency to stand up when braking in a corner... Now, I prefer to get all my braking done prior to dipping in, but sometimes shit happens and you need to brake a little... The fuckin' bikes just stand straight back up with even the smallest amount of force applied to either rotor... Granted, a noob braking in the corner is probably going to eat shit anyway, but it's certainly worth mentioning. |
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10-21-2008, 09:12 AM | #4 | ||
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THe best thing to do is take advantage of Buell's demo program. They are one of the few dealers who will let you try before you buy.
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10-21-2008, 12:58 PM | #5 | |
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What is the difference between a 600 and 1000 in HP and Torque. I always assumed it was significantly different. That's what I meant by not much difference between the two. As far as standing up under braking, I have never experienced it. I regularly trail brake front and rear in corners without issue. I know that much of the problem with the bike standing up under braking was due to the tires. The D208's that came on many of the first run bikes were awful at standing up mid corner. |
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10-21-2008, 01:12 PM | #6 |
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10-29-2008, 02:57 PM | #7 |
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Technical stuff aside, the best reason to buy a Buell is the Buell community. There's nothing like it out there for any other brand I've found. Buell has a great relationship with its customers - right down to posting on our boards - and Buell people are some of the best people I've ever met.
We had a gathering we called Buelltoberfest earlier this month. Dozens of Buell riders from all over the place converged on the North GA mountains. One rider wrecked, and he was immediately surrounded with friends who took care of everything for him. One group escorted him to the hospital while another group recovered his bike. A guy he hardly knew from NC drove him and his bike all the way down to Colombus, GA and wouldn't even accept gas money, just because he rode a Buell. The rider's response to all of this really sums up why I'll always have a Buell in my garage: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgib...32#POST1276732
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10-29-2008, 03:29 PM | #8 | |
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Agreed! It's hard to explain. Since there are so few of us, ownership kinda invokes "club behavior". You're instantly compelled to chase down and meet another Buell rider. Maybe Buell just attracts stalkers. |
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10-30-2008, 08:44 AM | #9 | ||
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11-16-2008, 05:28 AM | #10 |
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marko... I think I asked this before but can't remember if you answered... but what do you get for range on your firebolt? it's got a small tank I know... but from what I hear they get great mileage...
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