War on Drugs: Officially a Failure.

[Rider]

Puff, puff, pass.

[dubbs]

Originally Posted by The Chi

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This was kinda where I was going with my thought. If its legal, wheres the excitement and interest factor?

Not sure if you got my point.. I meant less kids would be doing it because it wouldn't be as easy to get. Weed, pills, coke, and any other illegal drug is sold on the black market, therefore very easy to get compared to legal drugs such as alcohol and tobacco.

Do you think people who have a drink are idiots as well?

Originally Posted by Rider

Puff, puff, pass.

Thats what I'm sayin!

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by The Chi

Geez.

I know this will sound horrible, but I wonder what would happen if we just left things alone. Like let all the drug cartels do their thing, unimpeded, and let the idiots who want to use go ahead and use, thus wiping themselves from the gene pool.

If we left them alone, innocents wouldnt be used as mules like that Mom, there wouldnt be any need to constantly hide from the government, and if it wasnt illegal, do you think people would eventually lose interest? Just pondering...

The problem is innocent people are still involved, from the families of the addicts to all the people they steal from to get money to support their habbit.

Then factor in the detox/rehab, I ma sure most of them dont have insurance so guess who pays for that?

There is a lot of gang/drug activity where I work and if they just kill each other its no big loss, its when the innocent people just trying to survive get caught in the crossfire.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by The Chi

Geez.

I know this will sound horrible, but I wonder what would happen if we just left things alone. Like let all the drug cartels do their thing, unimpeded, and let the idiots who want to use go ahead and use, thus wiping themselves from the gene pool.

If we left them alone, innocents wouldnt be used as mules like that Mom, there wouldnt be any need to constantly hide from the government, and if it wasnt illegal, do you think people would eventually lose interest? Just pondering...

We first need to protect our borders and control the flow of drugs into this country. Then, legalize all soft drugs and tax them. Then....we should help out the Mexican government to control its population IMO.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by The Chi

Geez.

I know this will sound horrible, but I wonder what would happen if we just left things alone. Like let all the drug cartels do their thing, unimpeded, and let the idiots who want to use go ahead and use, thus wiping themselves from the gene pool.

If we left them alone, innocents wouldnt be used as mules like that Mom, there wouldnt be any need to constantly hide from the government, and if it wasnt illegal, do you think people would eventually lose interest? Just pondering...

It will never happen this way because there is too much money available for collection by the government. If there is a national change in drug policy it will be full circle. I'm guessing licenses will be required for growers/manufacturers and sellers plus hefty fed, state, and local taxes on the sale of the product itself.

What would be funny (and I think at least as likely as not) would be our various governments putting so many taxes and fees on drugs that there remains a viable black market for them simply based on price. Even in the cheap states taxes account for around 80% of the price of a pack of cigarettes. In more expensive areas taxes are over 90% of the price. At what rate do you think those same governments will tax a dime bag of weed? How about a gram of coke? I think prices will be insanely high.

[dubbs]

Originally Posted by goof2

It will never happen this way because there is too much money available for collection by the government. If there is a national change in drug policy it will be full circle. I'm guessing licenses will be required for growers/manufacturers and sellers plus hefty fed, state, and local taxes on the sale of the product itself.

What would be funny (and I think at least as likely as not) would be our various governments putting so many taxes and fees on drugs that there remains a viable black market for them simply based on price. Even in the cheap states taxes account for around 80% of the price of a pack of cigarettes. In more expensive areas taxes are over 90% of the price. At what rate do you think those same governments will tax a dime bag of weed? How about a gram of coke? I think prices will be insanely high.

Not sure on the price being really high... The only reason it's very high right now is because of how risky it is to provide it to people.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by dubbs

Not sure on the price being really high... The only reason it's very high right now is because of how risky it is to provide it to people.

The government will have a monopoly on the only legal distribution channel. They will also say that the tax/fee money will be required to pay for all the rehabilitation, medical expenses, and oversight of the product that will be required. The government won't actually spend that money on those things, but those things will be used for justification. You think drugs are expensive now? Wait until the government gets involved.

[the chi]

Originally Posted by goof2

The government will have a monopoly on the only legal distribution channel. They will also say that the tax/fee money will be required to pay for all the rehabilitation, medical expenses, and oversight of the product that will be required. The government won't actually spend that money on those things, but those things will be used for justification. You think drugs are expensive now? Wait until the government gets involved.

I agree 100%, but would that be a bad thing?

[dubbs]

Originally Posted by goof2

The government will have a monopoly on the only legal distribution channel. They will also say that the tax/fee money will be required to pay for all the rehabilitation, medical expenses, and oversight of the product that will be required. The government won't actually spend that money on those things, but those things will be used for justification. You think drugs are expensive now? Wait until the government gets involved.

Tobacco isn't that expensive (in most areas) and neither is alcohol.. Why would weed be so much different?

[t-homo]

Yeah, if someone goes home after a long day of work and smokes a joint, they are probably a worthless human being. Let's bump it up a notch and say someone does a few lines of blow over the weekend. No one should control what we do in our free time.