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Old 07-19-2011, 12:29 AM   #1
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Default 5th gen "coil on plug" setup project

It never stops, does it? Moving onto my next project. Since I don't feel like modifying the 6th gen airbox, I'm just going to go this route.


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Old 07-19-2011, 03:17 AM   #2
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It's apparent this guy is pretty clueless about the electronic ignition system.

What is this clown exactly trying to accomplish? He doesn't like the coils that are located under the fuel tank that you can't see anyway?

Uh..yeah..the three wires are for the hall effect driver that operates the primary coil control. The third wire is for the transistor low side current path.

Clown...
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:27 AM   #3
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"I don't know jack shit about how any of this works, but it should be fine."

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Old 07-19-2011, 09:34 AM   #4
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It's apparent this guy is pretty clueless about the electronic ignition system.

What is this clown exactly trying to accomplish? He doesn't like the coils that are located under the fuel tank that you can't see anyway?

Uh..yeah..the three wires are for the hall effect driver that operates the primary coil control. The third wire is for the transistor low side current path.

Clown...
If you would have watched the vid youd know why Im doing it. 5th gens are just two wire coils just like most motorcycles so I'm fine in the wiring department. People have been using moto coil on plugs on vehicle engine conversions for years and motorcycles so I know it'll work.

Also Im not a clown seeing as Ive worked on everythig Ive owned and nothing Ive done has broken. Go be a douche somewhere else.
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Old 07-24-2011, 01:56 AM   #5
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If you would have watched the vid youd know why Im doing it. 5th gens are just two wire coils just like most motorcycles so I'm fine in the wiring department. People have been using moto coil on plugs on vehicle engine conversions for years and motorcycles so I know it'll work.

Also Im not a clown seeing as Ive worked on everythig Ive owned and nothing Ive done has broken. Go be a douche somewhere else.
The clown I'm referring to is the guy in the video...but you are more than welcome to join him in the clowness as you see fit.

You or him or whomever can do whatever the fuck you wish to your bike. Be my guest...but when you modify something , there usually is some type of gain of some sort. There is absolutely no gain in what this guy is doing because all of that shit is buried under the fuel tank and most likely will prematurely wear out the driver in the ignition module.

Does he not realize that there is resistance from the secondary coil through the boot just as there is via a spark plug wire?

I would have hoped he measured the primary coil resistance on both the coil over plug vs the separate coil so he doesn't prematurely wear out the driver in the ignition module. Oh wait he doesn't even know what an ignition module is.

This is the guy that tells you this at a bike night and you're thinking to yourself...what a dolt.
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The clown I'm referring to is the guy in the video...but you are more than welcome to join him in the clowness as you see fit.
Wow, I can't believe he had to spell out the obvious about who was in the vid
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Wow, I can't believe he had to spell out the obvious about who was in the vid
Yeah...even JC didn't get it, read his first post And when someone says just before the video..."I'm just going to go this route..." you assume he pulled it off of youtube and is going to try it out. Sounds to me like he wanted to see what the response was before letting all of America know it was him.

Now I see why you got offended at the clown comment. My bad.

Dude..just measure the resistance across the two pins of the coil/boot assembly...then measure resistance across the OEM coil +/-. If they are close, then you will be fine. If they are much different, then you stand to burn out the ignition module IF the coil/boot assembly resistance is lower.

And I work in Service Engineering for Isuzu...I take shit apart many times per week...not to mention I was a tech for a Mazda dealer for 3 years before Engineering school.
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Old 07-24-2011, 01:14 AM   #8
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This clown has finished.


Donor harness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP5h_XF-_Rw

Modified connectors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrzVZpg4EZA

Test start

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVPNyVOlz9k
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Old 07-24-2011, 03:18 AM   #9
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I'm the one that made the vids dumbass.


You're the guy that's too scared to pick of a screw driver. "OMG! Don't do that! If the manufacture didn't do that then it must have never meant to be."

The 6th gens use coil on plugs and their engine is the exact same (except for vtec) and they use the same spark plugs, same sensors, and the harness is almost the same.

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101s a funny dude, man. Sometimes, he says brilliant shit, and you'd fucking swear someone hacked his account. Then this.

Engineers. Weird.
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