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Old 08-25-2009, 03:25 PM   #21
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I actually do think the drinking and driving sentence is absurd.

I also think that if your drinking and driving and cause damage, or injury, you should get a much much stiffer sentence.

To me personal responsibility is accepting responsibility for messing up. Not the potential to mess up.

I think speeding laws are ridiculous as well, they are nothing but revenue generation.

If it had anything to do with safety, our cars would be limited to a certain speed.
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Old 08-25-2009, 03:56 PM   #22
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We have laws against it here. Which I consider beyond retarded.

You're being punished for the potential to cause damage or harm. Not for actually doing it.

If you cause an accident due to texting or talking, you should have a stiffer sentence. If you've never hurt anyone, then they should stop coming up with new laws to stop personal pet peeves.
The same argument can be made against drinking and driving.

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I actually do think the drinking and driving sentence is absurd.

I also think that if your drinking and driving and cause damage, or injury, you should get a much much stiffer sentence.

To me personal responsibility is accepting responsibility for messing up. Not the potential to mess up.

I think speeding laws are ridiculous as well, they are nothing but revenue generation.

If it had anything to do with safety, our cars would be limited to a certain speed.

My bike is limited to 300km/h
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Old 08-25-2009, 03:57 PM   #23
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rednecks breeding should be against the law also :P
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Old 08-25-2009, 06:05 PM   #24
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we were sitting at a stop sign in a line... if you knew how to read you wouldn't be forced to live in California! Just sayin' There wasn't any "lane" to get into.
She could have wheelied over the truck and did a knack knack coming off it it to stop with a 90degree stoppie.
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Old 08-25-2009, 07:34 PM   #25
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I actually do think the drinking and driving sentence is absurd.

I also think that if your drinking and driving and cause damage, or injury, you should get a much much stiffer sentence.

To me personal responsibility is accepting responsibility for messing up. Not the potential to mess up.

I think speeding laws are ridiculous as well, they are nothing but revenue generation.

If it had anything to do with safety, our cars would be limited to a certain speed.
There are certain things that it only makes sense to regulate, at least to some degree. Drinking and driving is one of them. Unfortunately, in this Province, things have jumped the shark. Blowing in the "warn range" (0.05-0.08 BAC), which used to get you a 12 hour suspension and have you get someone else to drive you home, now results in a 3 day suspension and a tow for your car. Subsequent 'offences' are treated to progressively longer suspensions and seizures. Remember, this is supposed to be a warning and you'll never see the inside of a court to fight it

Then we have the racing and stunting laws, that have your car seized at the roadside for a week without recourse. Regulation is one thing. Penalizing people without giving them their day in court is another.
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Old 08-26-2009, 01:42 PM   #26
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I'm visiting your province right now.

We were coming back to my gf's sisters last night. She got pulled for 30 over in my car. And I had my old insurance card in the car. The new one is at my house in ns.

He knocked it down to 20 over which saved her 200 bones, and issued her a warning for the proof of insurance since it was my fault and not hers.

I know the laws are strict. I was just happy that he was lenient.

I reeked of booze, and he never questioned it at all.
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:16 PM   #27
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I'm visiting your province right now.

We were coming back to my gf's sisters last night. She got pulled for 30 over in my car. And I had my old insurance card in the car. The new one is at my house in ns.

He knocked it down to 20 over which saved her 200 bones, and issued her a warning for the proof of insurance since it was my fault and not hers.

I know the laws are strict. I was just happy that he was lenient.

I reeked of booze, and he never questioned it at all.
That can't have been anywhere near Toronto. Kingston?
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:18 PM   #28
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It was on highway 20 near smithville.
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:25 PM   #29
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It was on highway 20 near smithville.
OK, so out of the OPP GTR area. Still surpirsed though, because that's still part of the area covered by Highway Division, which is Fantino's pet.
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It was on highway 20 near smithville.
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