High Fructose Corn Syrup Causes More Weight Gain Than Sugar - Page 32

Kaneman · 04-08-2010, 11:40 AM

You guys realize I'm not saying we should make it illegal to eat like shit right? I'm not even saying it should be illegal to feed your kid shit food.

KSGregman · 04-08-2010, 11:41 AM

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Brainwashing is brainwashing. Have you tuned into Nickelodeon or the Disney channel lately?

Personal accountability.

Where are the parents? Don't want your kids to be "brain-washed" by the all powerful nationwide junk food conspiracy (tm)? TURN OFF THE FUCKING TV!!

Personal accountability.

Kids whining and asking for junk food because their friends are eating it or they saw it on TV? BE A FUCKING PARENT AND TEACH THEM ABOUT HEALTHIER FOOD CHOICES!!!

Personal accountability....See where I'm going with this? There is NOTHING grey about it. You either assume responsibility for yourself (and your kids).....or you don't. Period. And if you CHOOSE not to assume that responsibility, there is NO ONE to blame but yourself. Period.

Kaneman · 04-08-2010, 11:43 AM

Soooo....you just want to leave everything exact as-is right? Continue to produce ridiculous levels of corn, serve dollar cheeseburgers that weight 8 lbs...and all that jazz?

KSGregman · 04-08-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman

Soooo....you just want to leave everything exact as-is right? Continue to produce ridiculous levels of corn, serve dollar cheeseburgers that weight 8 lbs...and all that jazz?

Mass production of heavily subsidized corn?

No. I don't like subsidies to begin with...they are counter productive. I particularly don't like subsidizing ineffective programs like corn based ethanol. It's an inferior product...marginally efficient...and produced at a HUGE cost of mis-used arable land.

Dollar cheese burgers that weigh 8 pounds and all that jazz?

Sure...why not? It's a free country. Why is that any more offensive than the ready availability of cigarettes? I don't CHOOSE to eat myself to death any more than I CHOOSE not to smoke myself to death.

I'm totally baffled by the cause and effect relationship you seem to have on this subject. I'm not flaming or attempting to be insulting...I'm genuinely curious....Just because these harmful foods are available doesn't obligate ANYONE to EAT them. Healthier choices are also just as readily available. Isn't it ultimately up to each individual to decide what they consume?

Kaneman · 04-08-2010, 12:07 PM

Its not about them being available, its about them being the cheapest and most abundant and then the US population being indoctrinated with constant advertising that encourages them indulge in said products. You have never met any poor people have you?

A free country? No dude, its not a free country, this is America, though that has little to do with the current debate.

You keep talking about what YOU choose to do. You choose not to smoke, you choose to eat healthy. Well that's great for you dude, you're intelligent enough to make independently formed decisions. Welcome to the minority.

Again, all I'm debating is for an end to corn subsidies and what amounts to government produced corn products from ethanol to HFCS. Not sure why there seems to be so much opposition to that.

Sean · 04-08-2010, 12:12 PM

I'm against my tax money being used to subsidize unhealthy food, but I take my own responsibility for my health instead of throwing up my arms and saying "it's not my fault!! the food industry is evil!!"

Kaneman · 04-08-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

I'm against my tax money being used to subsidize unhealthy food, but I take my own responsibility for my health.

Awesome, me too. So what were we disagreeing about again?

Edit: Oh there it is, you added it on at the end there.

So, industries can't be evil or do wrong, and to imply otherwise is to wear a tin foil hat is what you're saying?

Sean · 04-08-2010, 12:18 PM

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So, industries can't be evil or do wrong, and to imply otherwise is to wear a tin foil hat is what you're saying?

Yeah that's exactly what I'm saying

Kaneman · 04-08-2010, 12:19 PM

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Yeah that's exactly what I'm saying

Right on. At least we agree about the tax subsidies and need for personal responsibility though.

Adeptus_Minor · 04-08-2010, 12:21 PM

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serve dollar cheeseburgers that weight 8 lbs...and all that jazz?

Wait... where's this place again?

04-08-2010, 11:40 AM	#311
Kaneman AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Odessa, TX Moto: 2000 Honda CBR1100XX Blackbird Posts: 4,931	You guys realize I'm not saying we should make it illegal to eat like shit right? I'm not even saying it should be illegal to feed your kid shit food. __________________ 1982 Honda XR80 - blown motor, 1993 Kawasaki ZX6D - sold, 2001 Suzuki Bandit 1200S - sold, 1984 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Kawasaki ZRX1200R - blown motor, 2007 Suzuki DL1000 V-Strom - totalled, 2003 Yamaha FZ1 - sold, 1994 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Honda CBR600F4i - sold, 1998 Suzuki DR350 - stolen, 1989 Honda Super Magna - sold, 2007 Yamaha Stratoliner, 2000 Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird

04-08-2010, 11:43 AM	#313
Kaneman AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Odessa, TX Moto: 2000 Honda CBR1100XX Blackbird Posts: 4,931	Soooo....you just want to leave everything exact as-is right? Continue to produce ridiculous levels of corn, serve dollar cheeseburgers that weight 8 lbs...and all that jazz? __________________ 1982 Honda XR80 - blown motor, 1993 Kawasaki ZX6D - sold, 2001 Suzuki Bandit 1200S - sold, 1984 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Kawasaki ZRX1200R - blown motor, 2007 Suzuki DL1000 V-Strom - totalled, 2003 Yamaha FZ1 - sold, 1994 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Honda CBR600F4i - sold, 1998 Suzuki DR350 - stolen, 1989 Honda Super Magna - sold, 2007 Yamaha Stratoliner, 2000 Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird

04-08-2010, 12:07 PM	#315
Kaneman AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Odessa, TX Moto: 2000 Honda CBR1100XX Blackbird Posts: 4,931	Its not about them being available, its about them being the cheapest and most abundant and then the US population being indoctrinated with constant advertising that encourages them indulge in said products. You have never met any poor people have you? A free country? No dude, its not a free country, this is America, though that has little to do with the current debate. You keep talking about what YOU choose to do. You choose not to smoke, you choose to eat healthy. Well that's great for you dude, you're intelligent enough to make independently formed decisions. Welcome to the minority. Again, all I'm debating is for an end to corn subsidies and what amounts to government produced corn products from ethanol to HFCS. Not sure why there seems to be so much opposition to that. __________________ 1982 Honda XR80 - blown motor, 1993 Kawasaki ZX6D - sold, 2001 Suzuki Bandit 1200S - sold, 1984 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Kawasaki ZRX1200R - blown motor, 2007 Suzuki DL1000 V-Strom - totalled, 2003 Yamaha FZ1 - sold, 1994 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Honda CBR600F4i - sold, 1998 Suzuki DR350 - stolen, 1989 Honda Super Magna - sold, 2007 Yamaha Stratoliner, 2000 Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird

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04-08-2010, 12:12 PM	#316
Sean giggity Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: socal Moto: street, sumo & dirty Posts: 1,071	I'm against my tax money being used to subsidize unhealthy food, but I take my own responsibility for my health instead of throwing up my arms and saying "it's not my fault!! the food industry is evil!!"