suspension setup...

OneSickPsycho · 10-01-2011, 10:05 AM

Pretty interesting... Though, you really gotta haul ass to feel some of those effects - or horribly suspension settings to begin with.

derf · 10-01-2011, 12:02 PM

great, i just passed this along to a buddy who swears that its a black art

askmrjesus · 10-01-2011, 01:44 PM

Exiting turn---Chatter or wallow---turns really well---Lower ride height(2mm at a time)

I think that last part should read: Leave it the fuck alone.

JC

Homeslice · 10-01-2011, 02:06 PM

What would help is if "chatter" was defined. Some people say it's lack of traction over bumps, other people say it's clunking noise in the forks.

Porkchop · 10-01-2011, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

Exiting turn---Chatter or wallow---turns really well---Lower ride height(2mm at a time)

I think that last part should read: Leave it the fuck alone.

JC

I didnt even catch that.

askmrjesus · 10-01-2011, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice

What would help is if "chatter" was defined. Some people say it's lack of traction over bumps, other people say it's clunking noise in the forks.

I've always compared it to chattering teeth, ie. the front end is bouncing up and down in a rapid fashion.

I think that what you perceive to be chatter, is chatter. If you're doing your own suspension, it doesn't really matter what you call a particular symptom. It shimmies, it shakes, it's wiggly, it's bumpy, whatever. As long as you know what it means to you, you're good. If you have to explain to someone else, that's a different matter.

I was talking with a 125GP novice once (club racer) and he said the front end felt "scrunchy". I asked him what he meant. "It kinda scrunches down going in to turns on the brakes". Gotcha.

Too much dive, add some pre-load.

JC

101lifts2 · 10-01-2011, 10:41 PM

I don't agree with the front sag of 20mm....racers and aggressive street riders run 25-30mm nowadays.

Those are all good and stuff, but once you set the bike up, you will quickly find out after doing track or very aggressive street riding that stock suspension isn't all that good. Esp. the shitty shocks they use to save coin. Granted your bike isn't equipped with Ohlins.

fujimoh · 10-02-2011, 11:51 AM

And then tomorrow, when you back to the track with different temp, humidity sunshine and tire wear going on, you get to pick up the tools and start MM'ing adjustments again.

setting suspension, It's almost as maddening as trying to sink a 6' putt

10-01-2011, 10:05 AM	#1
OneSickPsycho Ride Like an Asshole Join Date: Feb 2008 Moto: nothing... Posts: 11,254	suspension setup... Pretty interesting... Though, you really gotta haul ass to feel some of those effects - or horribly suspension settings to begin with.

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askmrjesus Soul Man Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Everywhere, all the time. Moto: '0000 Custom Turbo Cross (with jet kit). Posts: 6,481	Exiting turn---Chatter or wallow---turns really well---Lower ride height(2mm at a time) I think that last part should read: Leave it the fuck alone. JC __________________ The way things are going, they're gonna crucify me.

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101lifts2 WSB Champion Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Anaheim, CA Moto: 2009 Kawi ZX6R Posts: 5,570	I don't agree with the front sag of 20mm....racers and aggressive street riders run 25-30mm nowadays. Those are all good and stuff, but once you set the bike up, you will quickly find out after doing track or very aggressive street riding that stock suspension isn't all that good. Esp. the shitty shocks they use to save coin. Granted your bike isn't equipped with Ohlins. __________________ Train Hard Ron Paul - 2012 Mark of Excellence GM

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10-01-2011, 02:06 PM	#4
Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	What would help is if "chatter" was defined. Some people say it's lack of traction over bumps, other people say it's clunking noise in the forks.

10-02-2011, 11:51 AM	#8
fujimoh Kneedragger Join Date: May 2011 Location: Florida Moto: CBR 1000RR Posts: 230	And then tomorrow, when you back to the track with different temp, humidity sunshine and tire wear going on, you get to pick up the tools and start MM'ing adjustments again. setting suspension, It's almost as maddening as trying to sink a 6' putt