Frame Sliders...

Mrs. Colleen · 07-13-2008, 07:56 PM

My husband was telling me that people have different opinions of frame sliders...some love them and some think they do more damage than good. His bike has them so I was asking him if he thought it would be a good idea for me to get some too. Anyway........

I know very little about frame sliders so I want to hear your input. Good stories, bad stories, pics, anything.

Teach me the ways of the sliders!

Mr Lefty · 07-13-2008, 08:48 PM

frame sliders are good for tip overs... for slides... it depends on the quality what they're made of and how they mount. the cheaper ones will snap.... the "bling" are usually metal and tend to dig in and either bend what ever they're mounted to or snap off in the hole. bikes that require cutting usually have a few cheaper alternatives that mount to a fairing tab or what ever and are called NO-Cutt sliders (for obvious reasons) but they are mounted to structurally weak points and usually cause more damage than you'd have gotten with out them.

good sliders aren't crash cages... they help REDUCE damage... not prevent them. they're to keep your FRAME from sliding on the ground... NOT YOUR FAIRINGS! you can buy new fairings with insurance money... but a scratched frame = salvaged title.

I have some cut ones that cost me $160 cause I had to get a new coolant bottle as the slider mounts right in the middle of it. but I got it for the parking lot tip overs and low speed downs... wouldn't expect them to save shit in anything over 60mph. IMO

all of this is based on my gathering of info from here and several other websites... don't have any real life experience with sliders... but I will say that I I had my bike fall over and break a foot peg, rear brake lever, front brake lever, and scratch the hell, and crack my right fairing, as well as scratched my exhaust. all would have been saved had I had sliders. or at the very least... greatly reduced

NONE_too_SOFT · 07-13-2008, 09:01 PM

frame sliders saved my bike, even though the puck wasnt even on cause somebody stole it. without them i would have to replace the shift linkage, rear sets, back tail, mid section and probobly more. like ebbs said, they dont save the fairings, but they do help. a little rash is a better then a lot of rash and cracks and such.

As far as doing damage in a crash, yea they COULD damage the frame in a VERY hard impact, but in that event the least of your worries will be a bent frame. Those types of crashes are bike killers anyways.

Dave · 07-13-2008, 09:13 PM

saved my bike completely when i lowsided. i have lockheart phillips sliders on the bar ends, frame, and swingarm. i wouldnt want to ride without em

fnfalman · 07-13-2008, 09:38 PM

Good frame sliders are worth their weights in gold. I prefer Woodcraft and RhiniMoto.

Phenix_Rider · 07-13-2008, 09:45 PM

They wouldn't have done me any good- you could see that from the damage. Smashed headlight surround would not have been saved. 35mph low side.

On the other hand, they DID save an '02 GSXR on the track. He had aluminum woodcraft sliders. The slider wore down a bit, and the bolt bent, but the only damage on the bike was a few scratches that are barely noticeable. His swingarm spool broke off, but the swingarm was clean. 30 mph high side.

Amber Lamps · 07-13-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fnfalman

Good frame sliders are worth their weights in gold. I prefer Woodcraft and RhiniMoto.

Have you "crash tested" the Woodcrafts? I'm waiting to see what Suzuki does with the '09 GSXR1000 asit's a remodel year but if it's similar to what they have now,I'm going to keep my bike and totally re-do it. I really like the closed end look of them.

Cutty72 · 07-14-2008, 12:06 AM

I have the LP sliders on the SV, and they help, mostly to save the radiators as there is not much for plastic on it.

the 1125 came from the factory with "sliders"
Them big ugly pods everyone bitches about are designed to take the impact, and at only $50/each its not too bad.

Mr Lefty · 07-14-2008, 12:10 AM

really? damn didn't realize they were designed to take the impact... I was wondering how they were gonna figure out sliders... pretty cool...

Cutty72 · 07-14-2008, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ebbs15

really? damn didn't realize they were designed to take the impact... I was wondering how they were gonna figure out sliders... pretty cool...

yup, about the only good thing about them.

guess they work pretty well too, from what i've heard.

07-13-2008, 07:56 PM	#1
Mrs. Colleen Leather and Lace Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Goleta, Ca Moto: 2005 R6 Posts: 1,810	Frame Sliders... My husband was telling me that people have different opinions of frame sliders...some love them and some think they do more damage than good. His bike has them so I was asking him if he thought it would be a good idea for me to get some too. Anyway........ I know very little about frame sliders so I want to hear your input. Good stories, bad stories, pics, anything. Teach me the ways of the sliders!

07-13-2008, 09:13 PM	#4
Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	saved my bike completely when i lowsided. i have lockheart phillips sliders on the bar ends, frame, and swingarm. i wouldnt want to ride without em __________________ TWF Post whore #6

07-13-2008, 09:38 PM	#5
fnfalman Europhile Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SoCal Moto: Aprilia RS125, Aprilia SR50 Factory, Aprilia Tuono, BMW Rockster, KTM 990 Adventure Posts: 1,875	Good frame sliders are worth their weights in gold. I prefer Woodcraft and RhiniMoto. __________________ *Cogito Ergo Vroom - I think therefore I ride*

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07-13-2008, 08:48 PM	#2
Mr Lefty TWFix Legend Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver CO Moto: 01 BMW F650GS Dakar Posts: 15,677	frame sliders are good for tip overs... for slides... it depends on the quality what they're made of and how they mount. the cheaper ones will snap.... the "bling" are usually metal and tend to dig in and either bend what ever they're mounted to or snap off in the hole. bikes that require cutting usually have a few cheaper alternatives that mount to a fairing tab or what ever and are called NO-Cutt sliders (for obvious reasons) but they are mounted to structurally weak points and usually cause more damage than you'd have gotten with out them. good sliders aren't crash cages... they help REDUCE damage... not prevent them. they're to keep your FRAME from sliding on the ground... NOT YOUR FAIRINGS! you can buy new fairings with insurance money... but a scratched frame = salvaged title. I have some cut ones that cost me $160 cause I had to get a new coolant bottle as the slider mounts right in the middle of it. but I got it for the parking lot tip overs and low speed downs... wouldn't expect them to save shit in anything over 60mph. IMO all of this is based on my gathering of info from here and several other websites... don't have any real life experience with sliders... but I will say that I I had my bike fall over and break a foot peg, rear brake lever, front brake lever, and scratch the hell, and crack my right fairing, as well as scratched my exhaust. all would have been saved had I had sliders. or at the very least... greatly reduced

07-13-2008, 09:01 PM	#3
NONE_too_SOFT Chopstix / \ Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Akron OH Moto: 03 CBR RR Posts: 5,350	frame sliders saved my bike, even though the puck wasnt even on cause somebody stole it. without them i would have to replace the shift linkage, rear sets, back tail, mid section and probobly more. like ebbs said, they dont save the fairings, but they do help. a little rash is a better then a lot of rash and cracks and such. As far as doing damage in a crash, yea they COULD damage the frame in a VERY hard impact, but in that event the least of your worries will be a bent frame. Those types of crashes are bike killers anyways.

07-14-2008, 12:10 AM	#9
Mr Lefty TWFix Legend Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver CO Moto: 01 BMW F650GS Dakar Posts: 15,677	really? damn didn't realize they were designed to take the impact... I was wondering how they were gonna figure out sliders... pretty cool...