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Old 01-19-2009, 11:54 AM   #11
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It's unclear: He was in possession of the material, or did he actually produce it himself? If the former, then jail. If the latter, then the death penalty is applicable. There are far too many credible professionals who believe that paedophiles are essentially incurable and if one has graduated to actually performing the atrocious acts himself, he needs to be put down.
so it's more OK to watch? fuk that.......10 500gb of child porn..........intercourse, beastiality.....infants........fry him!
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:54 AM   #12
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It's unclear: He was in possession of the material, or did he actually produce it himself? If the former, then jail. If the latter, then the death penalty is applicable. There are far too many credible professionals who believe that paedophiles are essentially incurable and if one has graduated to actually performing the atrocious acts himself, he needs to be put down.
Exactly what I was thinking. Being in possession means he's not right in the head and needs to be treated as such. If he produced any of it, it means he's a violent criminal and needs to be treated as such.

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Murder is punishable by death. Is rape also punishable by death (legitimate question)? If so, then this crime is also punishable by death. Crimes against full grown adults that are punishable by death, should very well be equally punishable (if not more harshly) when committed against children. It is rape, just because the victim isn't old enough to understand it doesn't change the definition.
No, rape is not punishable by death. Pre-meditated murder is nearly the only crime punishable by death. Treason is also, although it isn't enforced... but that's a whole different discussion.
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:58 AM   #13
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so it's more OK to watch? fuk that.......10 500gb of child porn..........intercourse, beastiality.....infants........fry him!
You've already proven you don't know how to differentiate between levels of crime.

You're the same person that said a person doing a burnout with a motorcycle in a hallway of a hotel was the same as the guy shooting at my wife and I while riding our motorcycle down the highway.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:06 PM   #14
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so it's more OK to watch? fuk that.......10 500gb of child porn..........intercourse, beastiality.....infants........fry him!
To use your words, YES, it is MORE OK to view naked pics of infants/children than to molest them. Does that make it OK in general? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! But would you punish a person who watches a video of someone being raped/killed the same as you would the person who rapes/kills?? Or how about a person who THINKS about killing others, but never acts on it? Should they be killed?

Don't get me wrong here, I am in no way defending anyone who views child pornography!!! IN NO WAY!! There is something extremely fucked up in their head without a doubt. But it is NOT the same as molesting a child. Disgusting, bad, fucked up, horrible, yes. The same as molestation, no.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:08 PM   #15
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To use your words, YES, it is MORE OK to view naked pics of infants/children than to molest them. Does that make it OK in general? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! But would you punish a person who watches a video of someone being raped/killed the same as you would the person who rapes/kills?? Or how about a person who THINKS about killing others, but never acts on it? Should they be killed?

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a video or 3 or 10 500gb worth? diff. yes or no?
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No, rape is not punishable by death. Pre-meditated murder is nearly the only crime punishable by death. Treason is also, although it isn't enforced... but that's a whole different discussion.
So capital punishment really isn't an option, and with the number of people on earth, neither is exile. So we toss him in jail and let him sit until he starts rotting. Seems to be about the only thing to do because rehab is probably not gonna help this guy. 5Tb of porn and the cops think he committed crimes against children every 2 days.
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a video or 3 or 10 500gb worth? diff. yes or no?
Of course, life in prison shouldn't be an option for 3. For 5TB it's being considered, isn't it?
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a video or 3 or 10 500gb worth? diff. yes or no?
Quantity does not equal molestation. I will say that IMO, someone with that much of a desire for child porn likely has acted on his fantasies (just writing that makes me want to puke) but I don't know that for a fact. I don't think people should be killed for having sick thoughts they don't act on. Would I cry or protest if he were killed, NOPE. Again, he should not be out on the streets, but executed, I couldn't say yes to if its "just" viewing this stuff. (Sick fucking bastard that he is.)
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I couldn't say yes to if its "just" viewing this stuff. (Sick fucking bastard that he is.)
I could, very easily.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:18 PM   #20
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I could, very easily.
So would you also kill the person who viewed this number of snuff films? Or of videos showing real rapes of adults occurring?
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