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Old 02-27-2009, 04:34 PM   #1
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What's the Best Diet? Eating Less Food
By TIFFANY SHARPLES Tiffany Sharples Thu Feb 26, 2:15 pm ET

Low fat, low carb, high protein - there's a diet plan of every flavor. And if you're one of the millions of Americans who struggle with weight, you've probably tried them all, likely with little success. That wouldn't surprise Dr. Frank Sacks, a professor at the Harvard School of Public Health and lead author of a new study published in the Feb. 26 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, whose findings confirm what a growing body of weight-loss evidence has already suggested: one diet is no better than the next when it comes to weight loss. It doesn't matter where your calories come from, as long as you're eating less. (Read about environmentally friendly food.)


"We have a really simple and practical message for people: it's not so much the type of diet you eat," says Sacks. "It's how much you put in your mouth."


In the analysis of 811 obese patients from Massachusetts and Louisiana, participants were randomly assigned to one of four heart-healthy diets: low fat or high fat, with either average or high levels of protein. All four regimens also included high amounts of whole grains, fruits and vegetables and substituted saturated fat, found in foods such as butter and meat, with unsaturated fat, found in vegetable oil and nuts. The participants were encouraged to exercise 90 minutes a week. (See the top 10 food trends of 2008.)


On average, the study participants lost about 13 lb. after six months of dieting, or about 7% of their starting weight, regardless of which diet plan they followed. At the one-year mark, the dieters had regained some of the lost weight, and after two years, average weight loss was about 9 lb. Only about 15% of participants were able to lose 10% of their body weight or more. Across the board, however, patients lowered their risk of diabetes and reduced blood levels of bad cholesterol (LDL) while increasing good cholesterol (HDL) and overall heart health.


Catherine Loria, one of the study's co-authors and a nutritional epidemiologist with the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute, which funded the study, was encouraged by the findings. "People do have to choose heart-healthy foods," she says, but "I think the beauty of the study is that they have a lot of flexibility in terms of the dietary approach."


But that's where the trouble begins. It's hard enough to figure out what to eat. Eating less of it is even harder. Researchers had hoped to get study participants to eat 750 calories less than they expended each day - an objective that proved unsustainable. Dieters adhered to the initial plan for the first several weeks, but by the six-month mark, they were consuming only 225 calories less than they expended - about a third of the goal - according to a calculation based on overall weight loss. "It's very difficult to reduce your calories enough to really sustain a lot of weight loss," Loria says. (See pictures of facial yoga.)


One failure of most diet plans is that people get hungry and quit, says Sacks, who acknowledges that the sudden reduction of 750 calories in his study was perhaps too steep. "I think what that teaches us is that maybe it's better to make a more gradual change in intake," says Sacks. "That's what I recommend to my patients: let's try to pick a gradual or realistic reduction in calories that's not going to make you really hungry a lot and that you can sustain day after day."


But eating less, however simple it may sound, is hardly a one-man job. Some nutrition experts argue that the balance of responsibility needs to fall more heavily on society at large. Martjin Katan, a professor of nutrition and health at Amsterdam's VU University, wrote an accompanying editorial that analyzed the merits of the diet study. He suggests that focusing on individual diet plans of any kind may be misguided, and that only community-wide change will truly be able to stem the tide of obesity. He points to a small town in France that tapped all of its residents to solve the problem - building more outdoor-sports facilities and creating walking routes, hosting cooking classes and even intervening with at-risk families. After five years, obesity among children was down to 8.8%, less than half the rate of neighboring towns. That success, he writes, "suggests that we may need a new approach to preventing and to treating obesity and that it must be a total-environment approach."


It's a useful lesson for American adults, two-thirds of whom are overweight or obese. Long-term weight loss has proved frustratingly elusive for many obese individuals, but study after study has shown that community and peer support help people take off weight - and keep it off. In this study, the participants who took advantage of group and individual counseling offered as part of the diets had far greater success than those who chose to go it alone. Over the course of two years, participants who went to at least two-thirds of the counseling sessions dropped about 22 lb., 13 lb. more than the average of the entire study population. "Losing weight and sustaining it for two years is difficult," Sacks says. "To help people do that, they need some level of support to keep their motivation and focus."


But the bottom line, according to most obesity experts, is to set realistic goals. Expect what is achievable: a 250-lb. person isn't likely to slim down to supermodel proportions in her lifetime, but she may be able to lose 10 or 20 lb. A moderate 5% or 10% reduction in body weight can significantly improve health, by lowering cholesterol and the risk of heart disease, stroke and diabetes. For many doctors who work with obese patients, the goal is not thinness but well-being - and, ultimately for the patient, self-acceptance.


As for the secret to losing weight? There is none. "It's basic physiology," Loria says. "Eat fewer calories than you expend."
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Old 02-27-2009, 04:57 PM   #2
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I don't think people struggle with the fact that if you eat less you'll lose weight. Intuitively most people know that.

I think the issues arise from people not realizing the nutritional value of their food (think: "I don't know why I'm not losing weight...all I eat is..." kind of statements), and not really being able to stick to it.
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Old 02-27-2009, 05:18 PM   #3
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I think it's just going back to the basics - the 4 food groups, portion sizing, etc. It's a combination of everything that will prove most successful.

The portion sizing will work for a while, but if the quality of food you eat sucks, then eventually you will plateau.
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I think it's just going back to the basics - the 4 food groups, portion sizing, etc. It's a combination of everything that will prove most successful.

The portion sizing will work for a while, but if the quality of food you eat sucks, then eventually you will plateau.
Exactly. Portion sizes have become HUGE, and people don't realize how things that *look* healthy are packed with sugar and dripping in fatty condiments.

And on the flipside, people think "Well if reducing my intake by xxx calories is GOOD, then reducing it by XXXX must be GREAT," not realizing they're putting their bodies in starvation mode when they try to subsist on 500 calories a day... then they wonder why they stopped losing weight!
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Old 02-27-2009, 06:16 PM   #5
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And the yo-yo dieting is worse than anything. Your body gets used to that and then when you really do try something and stick with it, you fail anyway.

Starving yourself is horrible becaues then your body stores everything you eat - good or bad.

Just sucks all the way around. What happened to good old lard, real butter, whole milk...
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The biggest thing I notice in those around me that complain about not being able to lose those few pounds is that they refuse to go about things reasonably.

The binge eating and starving themselves are the top 2. Third is the crap they put in, like soda and candy.

For some reason people cannot comprehend that eating less, more often and not forgetting to fuel the body are more important than almost anything else.

Cut out sodas, there's several pounds.

Eat many meals a day at reasonable sizes, increase metabolism, burn more calories, lose weight.

Do a little cardio like 3 times a week and get a good nights sleep, keeps things going.

And once you get in the habit, you'll get where you want to be and it takes little to no effort to maintain where ya wanna be.
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you'd be amazed at how many calories are in the foods you eat every day (and when you eat out).

There's a good book called "Eat this not that" i strongly advise.
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Mine is portion control.... i eat healthy now, just too much of it!
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Exactly. Portion sizes have become HUGE, and people don't realize how things that *look* healthy are packed with sugar and dripping in fatty condiments.
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The most fucked up thing is chinese food, it's amazing how many people still think that shit is healthy

Loaded with sugar and salt, and the meat isn't lean, it's all fat/gristle, battered and fried, and they don't give you enough vegetables.
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I've been telling people this for years. It's not a gland problem, it's not metabolism (though both require you to eat even less calories). There was not one single overweight person to ever come out of a prison camp.

If you eat fewer calories than you burn, you'll lose weight. If you eat more calories than you burn, you'll gain wieght. A calorie is a calorie too, fat, carb, protein, doesn't matter, but eating a balanced diet is of course important for good health.
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