Bad gas? - Page 2

OreoGaborio · 12-25-2008, 11:25 PM

it's not the source of your problem, but stop filling up w/ premium. Just cuz it's more expensive doesn't mean it's better for the bike, it just means it has more additives in it to raise the octane level, which is only needed for high compression engines prone to detonation.

Check your owners manual for the recommended octane & use that (or whatever's available w/o going below the recommended). Anything "better" is nothing but a waste of money.

Also, GENERALLY the "cheaper" fuels get changed out more often because more people use them, which means there's less of a chance for condensation to build up in the bottom of the holding tank.

pickle.of.doom · 12-26-2008, 12:18 AM

OMFG a thread about gas and our own gas expert hasn't chimed in yet????

WTF Gman, you are slipping

BobTheBiker · 12-26-2008, 12:58 AM

I concur with this 1000%. higher octane doesnt=higher performance or better power output in a bike unless you've got a turbo or your bike specifies you need premium. I run regular 87 unleaded in my cage, my bike, and everything I own without a single issue.

premium wont give a bike more power, clean it out, etc. in a bike that specifies regular unleaded is what you need, you're really just burning money and not much else honestly.

pickle.of.doom · 12-26-2008, 01:02 AM

Most power will be had with the lowest octane that doesn't cause knocking.

OreoGaborio · 12-26-2008, 01:17 AM

Ahhh... I'm so glad I brought that up

Not because I don't think most of us already know this stuff, but because I think this marks the one billionth internet discussion about octane!!!

Do we all get a prize? I hope we do

ericr · 12-26-2008, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OreoGaborio

Ahhh... I'm so glad I brought that up

Not because I don't think most of us already know this stuff, but because I think this marks the one billionth internet discussion about octane!!!

Do we all get a prize? I hope we do

You get the FAIL prize since an R6S has 12.4:1 compression and requires premium fuel.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

xx CURVE xx · 12-26-2008, 11:30 AM

beans

HRCNICK11 · 12-26-2008, 11:56 AM

Oh for the record water is heavier than gas so the bottom of the tank is the nasty stuff. Also if you ever see a truck at the station filling the tanks drive right past cause when they fill the tanks it stirs up all the crap and you will get more of the crap. There is a reason they have to change the tanks every few years even now that they are not steel.

Gas Man · 12-26-2008, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pickle.of.doom

OMFG a thread about gas and our own gas expert hasn't chimed in yet????

WTF Gman, you are slipping

Sorry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pickle.of.doom

Most power will be had with the lowest octane that doesn't cause knocking.

Truth! Wise man

Can gas go bad? It really just breaks down in a fashion. Gas' #1 enemy is air. That is why you always fill the tank to its complete to eliminate the air.

But I highly doubt this is a gas issue. You said it only fucked up when you were turning?

But i will always suggest a frequent run of seafoam... it won't hurt. Check the sticky in tech on seafoam.

MissHell · 12-26-2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man

You said it only fucked up when you were turning?

The bike cut-off every time I slowed down, either to turn or come to a complete stop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man

But i will always suggest a frequent run of seafoam... it won't hurt. Check the sticky in tech on seafoam.

Sorry - I am not familar with seafoam. What does "check the sticky in tech on seafoam" mean?

12-25-2008, 11:25 PM	#11
OreoGaborio Tony's Crack Pusher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Topsfield MA Moto: 2003 Aprilia Tuono (street/track days), 2006 SV650 (race) Posts: 428	it's not the source of your problem, but stop filling up w/ premium. Just cuz it's more expensive doesn't mean it's better for the bike, it just means it has more additives in it to raise the octane level, which is only needed for high compression engines prone to detonation. Check your owners manual for the recommended octane & use that (or whatever's available w/o going below the recommended). Anything "better" is nothing but a waste of money. Also, GENERALLY the "cheaper" fuels get changed out more often because more people use them, which means there's less of a chance for condensation to build up in the bottom of the holding tank. __________________ -Pete LRRS/CCS#187 ECK-Racing, Ironstone Ventures, Tony's Track Days, SV Racer Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists \| Phoenix Graphics \| Woodcraft \| Moon Performance \| RJ's Motorsport \| Motorcycles of Manchester \| MTAG-Pirelli The Garage: '03 Tuono (Hooligan bike :naughty) \| '06 SV650 (race)

12-26-2008, 12:18 AM	#12
pickle.of.doom el diablo de verde Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Howell, MI Moto: VTR, CBR, DRZSM Posts: 1,046	OMFG a thread about gas and our own gas expert hasn't chimed in yet???? WTF Gman, you are slipping __________________ WOS Forums

12-26-2008, 01:02 AM	#14
pickle.of.doom el diablo de verde Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Howell, MI Moto: VTR, CBR, DRZSM Posts: 1,046	Most power will be had with the lowest octane that doesn't cause knocking. __________________ WOS Forums

12-26-2008, 01:17 AM	#15
OreoGaborio Tony's Crack Pusher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Topsfield MA Moto: 2003 Aprilia Tuono (street/track days), 2006 SV650 (race) Posts: 428	Ahhh... I'm so glad I brought that up Not because I don't think most of us already know this stuff, but because I think this marks the one billionth internet discussion about octane!!! Do we all get a prize? I hope we do __________________ -Pete LRRS/CCS#187 ECK-Racing, Ironstone Ventures, Tony's Track Days, SV Racer Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists \| Phoenix Graphics \| Woodcraft \| Moon Performance \| RJ's Motorsport \| Motorcycles of Manchester \| MTAG-Pirelli The Garage: '03 Tuono (Hooligan bike :naughty) \| '06 SV650 (race)

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12-26-2008, 12:58 AM	#13
BobTheBiker too much time on my hands Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: the northern district of god damn Moto: 01 ZX6R, looking for more now. Posts: 1,802	I concur with this 1000%. higher octane doesnt=higher performance or better power output in a bike unless you've got a turbo or your bike specifies you need premium. I run regular 87 unleaded in my cage, my bike, and everything I own without a single issue. premium wont give a bike more power, clean it out, etc. in a bike that specifies regular unleaded is what you need, you're really just burning money and not much else honestly.

12-26-2008, 11:30 AM	#17
xx CURVE xx SMELL MY LEVER Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Texas Moto: Tards Posts: 1,034	beans

12-26-2008, 11:56 AM	#18
HRCNICK11 Canyon Carver Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 429	Oh for the record water is heavier than gas so the bottom of the tank is the nasty stuff. Also if you ever see a truck at the station filling the tanks drive right past cause when they fill the tanks it stirs up all the crap and you will get more of the crap. There is a reason they have to change the tanks every few years even now that they are not steel.