Cornering Courage

[jtemple]

All the input is appreciated, and helpful. While I would certainly love to take some classes and do some track days, it's just not in the budget right now.

My question is sort of open ended, I suppose.

I'm thinking that unless I'm too hard on the throttle coming out of a turn or something along those lines, I'm probably not going to push the limits of my tires on anything out here. I probably just need to learn to relax a little and not be so worried about a crash. I rarely exceed about 80 mph in those big sweepers I was talking about.

[OreoGaborio]

Yeah I hear ya... it's not a cheap sport.

btw, I added some things to my post above in the first long paragraph, not sure if you saw them.

[jtemple]

Originally Posted by OreoGaborio

Yeah I hear ya... it's not a cheap sport.

btw, I added some things to my post above in the first long paragraph, not sure if you saw them.

Yep, got it. Great input, too. Thanks!

[the chi]

Quiet honestly, you are never using as much of your tire or your bikes potential on the street as you think you are. Even if it feels like you are "THIS CLOSE" to getting that knee down or the bike leaned all the way, you arent.

Since you cant get the necessary conditions on the street that would enable you to "safely" (used loosely) push the limits, save it for the track. Enjoy your weekend rides, ride within your limits and a bit below, especially if you have a fear of crashing, and I promise that while you may not feel like your skills are improving, they are and the more you ride, the better you get, without even realizing it.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Porkchop

Is it just me or are we not answering his question. I must be taking it a different way? I took it more along the lines of cornering feel, rather than tire limits.

Sorry, cant help you there either.... im a noob.

That's not something I can answer over the internet. I have never seen him ride or know anything about his throttle/brake control or body position while he is cornering. It's considerably hard to give good cornering advice without seeing how the person actually rides the bike, unless he provides us with some pics/vids.

[the chi]

Originally Posted by Dave

well lets just say i never met the previous owner but im fairly sure i weigh more than he did

I just know too many people who thought they knew what they were doing jack shit up and have to pay to get it fixed. Thankfully, I get mine done once a year and Im not small enough to even make an impact, but Ivegot good friends that can do it if need be that are professionals.

Originally Posted by Trip

That's not something I can answer over the internet. I have never seen him ride or know anything about his throttle/brake control or body position while he is cornering. It's considerably hard to give good cornering advice without seeing how the person actually rides the bike, unless he provides us with some pics/vids.

I actually thought about asking for pics, to show technique, positioning, etc myself...i remember those days...

[jtemple]

I think I have about 25,000 or so miles under my belt on 3 bikes. I've done enough homework that I'm confident that my riding position & technique are solid, at least for the roads we have here. I'd post up some pics/video, but I don't have any.

[HRCNICK11]

All the input is appreciated, and helpful. While I would certainly love to take some classes and do some track days, it's just not in the budget right now.

I'd like to point out unless you can aford to pay your bills from a hospital bed or have disablity insurance than you can't aford to ride over your head on the streets either.

I have found lately that riding mini super moto bikes on Kart tracks is a very afordable way to learn to ride fast. Once I started riding on the track I slowed way down on the street. Some trackdays are only $15 dollars and tires that are cheaper than big bikes and last most of the season.

One trackday will teach you more about riding than years of tooling around on the street.

I have been to the hospital and funerals of people that thought riding fast on the street was a good idea. I have done it and I'm glad I lived to tell others its a bad idea. I know I sound like your mother but trust me try to get on the track at least once. It will change your live.

I'm not sure where you live, if your near Michigan or Ohio(I ride there alot) your welcome to try out my mini (crf150R) during a trackday it would only cost you $15 or so depending on the track. I have a garage full of bikes and I ride my CRF150R more than any of them on ice, dirt and pavement.

[Dave]

good stuff. Now if someone would start up a basic suspension setup thread

[the chi]

Originally Posted by Dave

good stuff. Now if someone would start up a basic suspension setup thread

Here's a thought, leave it alone unless your a professional!