Ok, Here we go.

[Gunther1000]

Originally Posted by smileyman

Well Itry not to be condesending, BUT...

I recently rode with some liter bike guys (really good riders each one) wearing the latest in DOT race tires and found they had no idea that those tires were crap on the street. We were tearing up some Ozark highways and they were spinning everywhere unable to get them up to operating temperature. They were take offs of their race bikes and had been heat cycled to hell and back and were refusing to heat up even at lower psi on the cool fall highways.

I didn't say anything to them, just smiled smuggly as my 5000 mile old BT021 touring rubber with 36 psi in the rear hooked up and had great traction...I would have hated to have this 180 v 190 or 120/60 v. 120/70 conversation with them.

Ya I hear ya. To each there own. I personally will never see myself running a race take off for any amount of price or savings. I simply ride in to many varying conditions to justify it. I prefer a good sport street tire that I know I can count on.

As to the 70 vs 60 thing, I'm pretty sure there wouldnt have been any loss of traction that I would have noticed but it was worth a try to see if anyone had a knowledgeable reply. Good or bad.

On a side note, I do like the new Brig. BT0-16's they heat up really quick and grip real predictable. I had them try to slide out twice with plenty of warning to get my shit together on the track. And they held up wear wise real nice.

[Rider]

Originally Posted by Gunther1000

On a side note, I do like the new Brig. BT0-16's they heat up really quick and grip real predictable. I had them try to slide out twice with plenty of warning to get my shit together on the track. And they held up wear wise real nice.

I have the OEM version of the BT016's they are decent but they have slipped on me a few times. I attribute that to cold tires though. They do not heat up as fast as PP's.

[the chi]

Race take offs for a novice on a track day are actually pretty decent, and you can pick them up at a much better price than buying a new set of tires but I would only recommend them on the TRACK.

[ceo012384]

Originally Posted by Gunther1000

to anyone with a 190 rear If you dont already have the 190/55 vs the 50 your missing out! Big time! That extra turn in is great!

I'm trying out a 190/55 (stock i have a 180/55) DOT race tire at some track days this weekend... should be fun

[Gunther1000]

Originally Posted by The Chi

Race take offs for a novice on a track day are actually pretty decent, and you can pick them up at a much better price than buying a new set of tires but I would only recommend them on the TRACK.

Do you ever read a person's post before you throw your $.02 at it?

Or does that take away from your "it's all about ME" time?

Gheez.

[the chi]

Originally Posted by Gunther1000

Do you ever read a person's post before you throw your $.02 at it?

Or does that take away from your "it's all about ME" time?

Gheez.

Actually yes, and I was submitting my response to your statement you woud never run them. A newb could interpret that as them being bad or not an acceptable choice for a novice track day and we want as many people to get to the track as possible. Try looking at all the posts and pulling your head outta your ass before you show yours.

[jeeps84]

Originally Posted by The Chi

Actually yes, and I was submitting my response to your statement you woud never run them. A newb could interpret that as them being bad or not an acceptable choice for a novice track day and we want as many people to get to the track as possible. Try looking at all the posts and pulling your head outta your ass before you show yours.

Get'em Rae,

to all the Noobs out there. Stay away from the take-offs that are very blue on the edges. Those tires are cooked.

[Gunther1000]

Originally Posted by The Chi

Actually yes, and I was submitting my response to your statement you woud never run them. A newb could interpret that as them being bad or not an acceptable choice for a novice track day and we want as many people to get to the track as possible. Try looking at all the posts and pulling your head outta your ass before you show yours.

Riiiiiight, And that whole part about me riding in to many varying conditions part.... What would happen if said "unwise" newbie takes a little street trip on those really sweet track tires? Or riding to that track day like I had to do?

Fuck, You are very smart and are obviously the most track going person on the internet. That title you have. No question.

[ceo012384]

There is nothing wrong with takeoffs... I intend to run all my takeoffs on the street and/or sell them to street riders. Saves money and they always have tons of life left in the middle for street riding.

Originally Posted by jeeps84

to all the Noobs out there. Stay away from the take-offs that are very blue on the edges. Those tires are cooked.

Depends... over time the oils in the rubber work their way to the surface and leave a blue tinge... doesn't necessarily mean there's anything wrong with the tire.

For example, if you do one trackday on a set of tires and then let them sit in your garage for a few months, they'll have that blue tinge on them... but they're perfectly fine.

[Gunther1000]

Originally Posted by ceo012384

There is nothing wrong with takeoffs... I intend to run all my takeoffs on the street and/or sell them to street riders. Saves money and they always have tons of life left in the middle for street riding.

Depends... over time the oils in the rubber work their way to the surface and leave a blue tinge... doesn't necessarily mean there's anything wrong with the tire.

For example, if you do one trackday on a set of tires and then let them sit in your garage for a few months, they'll have that blue tinge on them... but they're perfectly fine.

You must have madd skilllz man! You ride Slicks in the freaking Rain! You da man!