GP shift adjustment hint - Page 4

ceo012384 · 05-14-2008, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pickle.of.doom

Until you are dragging your toe and shift knob while trying to upshift through a corner, there is no need.

Incorrect.

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Originally Posted by azoomm

On both the 748 and 998 the shift lever is REALLY far down below the rearset, but I haven't ever noticed an issue. In fact, my foot is almost straight up and down to slip it under there. But then, the rearsets are in a high position. Maybe that's it...

That makes sense.... the further back and up your pegs are, the further down the lever is going to be to be comfortable. I imagine I will have to adjust when I get rearsets eventually.

Look, this thread wasn't meant to discuss whether or not GP or regular shift is better, because there is no debate there

The point was more for people who are switching to explore the adjustment range because it made a huge difference for me in shifting comfort and quickness.

marko138 · 05-14-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ceo012384

Incorrect.

That makes sense.... the further back and up your pegs are, the further down the lever is going to be to be comfortable. I imagine I will have to adjust when I get rearsets eventually.

Look, this thread wasn't meant to discuss whether or not GP or regular shift is better, because there is no debate there

The point was more for people who are switching to explore the adjustment range because it made a huge difference for me in shifting comfort and quickness.

This is the internet, jackass. Everything turns into a debate. This is not a debate: suck it.

pickle.of.doom · 05-14-2008, 02:35 PM

So what was the need to switch then?

NONE_too_SOFT · 05-14-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by marko138

This is the internet, jackass. Everything turns into a debate. This is not a debate: suck it.

i disagree, not everything on the internet becomes a debate. you are wrong, sir.

No Worries · 05-14-2008, 03:24 PM

Not an argument, but just stating my views on which are more important to me: upshifts or downshifts. I don't know if it's because I'm old, old-school, or have old bikes, but when I am going around a curve and I'm leaning way off the bike, and the engine is at it's torque peak, and the exhaust note is intoxicating, I don't want to upshift. And I won't. Can't really go much faster around the curve anyway.

Maybe it's because I can only do one thing perfect at a time. But sometimes I wait until the curve starts to straighten out, and then I upshift. Most of the time I upshift after a curve just so I can downshift for the next curve. Most of my upshifts are pretty much automatic. But my downshifts require more braincells, more muscle movements, more coordination, and are a lot more fun. And I like to tap the lever down.

DLIT · 05-14-2008, 04:37 PM

GP shift is better. Plus when people ask to ride your bike you can say it's GP shift, you'd proly fuck it up. Most people would say "What is GP shift?"

Mr Lefty · 05-14-2008, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DLIT

GP shift is better. Plus when people ask to ride your bike you can say it's GP shift, you'd proly fuck it up. Most people would say "What is GP shift?"

I say sure... just after I get to test ride your girl...

only one guy said sure... then I saw his girl...

ceo012384 · 05-14-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pickle.of.doom

So what was the need to switch then?

It's not that there is a need, it's that it's better in every respect. What is the benefit of regular shift in contrast to GP? I don't see any.

But, the benefits of GP in contrast to regular:

1. Upshift while leaned to the left are possible due to increased ground clearance.

2. Upshifts easier and faster, just click down. With regular shift it's harder to get your foot under there while accelerating since the force of acceleration is pulling you backwards.

3. Clutchless upshifts a breeze, and preloading the shifter is easier.

4. Upshifts while hanging off the right side of the bike are possible since you just tap down.

5. Downshifts are not any more difficult since the forces of braking are pushing you onto the tank, it's easier to just slip your foot under there than in the case of a regular shift upshift. I can do it just as quickly as a regular shift downshift.

DLIT · 05-14-2008, 07:55 PM

Pickle, have you tried GP shift yet? Dicks...go eat some.

No Worries · 05-15-2008, 02:10 AM

I just did Lookout Mountain this afternoon. Over 60 tight curves and 9 switchbacks. And that's just going uphill. Not once did I upshift in a curve.

I like to get on the throttle smoothly coming out of a turn, especially going downhill. Going uphill and fighting gravity, you can start accelerating sooner out of a corner. At full lean, and Lookout Mountain is so steep and tight that most of the turns are at full lean, only a little throttle can be applied before the rear tire runs out of traction. I believe that shifting in a turn changes traction and is a recipe for a slide out.

To me, line selection, throttle control, and body position are much more important for going quickly around curves than mid-corner shifting.

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05-14-2008, 03:24 PM	#35
No Worries Keyboard Racer Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mile High City Moto: Old Superbikes Posts: 1,016	Not an argument, but just stating my views on which are more important to me: upshifts or downshifts. I don't know if it's because I'm old, old-school, or have old bikes, but when I am going around a curve and I'm leaning way off the bike, and the engine is at it's torque peak, and the exhaust note is intoxicating, I don't want to upshift. And I won't. Can't really go much faster around the curve anyway. Maybe it's because I can only do one thing perfect at a time. But sometimes I wait until the curve starts to straighten out, and then I upshift. Most of the time I upshift after a curve just so I can downshift for the next curve. Most of my upshifts are pretty much automatic. But my downshifts require more braincells, more muscle movements, more coordination, and are a lot more fun. And I like to tap the lever down.

05-15-2008, 02:10 AM	#40
No Worries Keyboard Racer Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mile High City Moto: Old Superbikes Posts: 1,016	I just did Lookout Mountain this afternoon. Over 60 tight curves and 9 switchbacks. And that's just going uphill. Not once did I upshift in a curve. I like to get on the throttle smoothly coming out of a turn, especially going downhill. Going uphill and fighting gravity, you can start accelerating sooner out of a corner. At full lean, and Lookout Mountain is so steep and tight that most of the turns are at full lean, only a little throttle can be applied before the rear tire runs out of traction. I believe that shifting in a turn changes traction and is a recipe for a slide out. To me, line selection, throttle control, and body position are much more important for going quickly around curves than mid-corner shifting.