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Old 03-13-2010, 12:52 PM   #31
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Ok, so your post is hypocritical
his post is situational....

this argument is dumb.
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Old 03-14-2010, 01:23 AM   #32
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No Worries... In the motorcycling Colorado book I just sent off to the publisher I call to attention the horrible, unrestrained practice CDOT and County Road & Bridge departments have with the dumping of sand on roads. I also call out annual county habits of pouring dirt on road shoulders which makes the corners filthy from cars cutting the corners... right where we don't want the slippery grit. Safer alternatives are suggested as well.
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Old 03-14-2010, 10:50 AM   #33
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No Worries... In the motorcycling Colorado book I just sent off to the publisher I call to attention the horrible, unrestrained practice CDOT and County Road & Bridge departments have with the dumping of sand on roads. I also call out annual county habits of pouring dirt on road shoulders which makes the corners filthy from cars cutting the corners... right where we don't want the slippery grit. Safer alternatives are suggested as well.
Good work, brother.
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Old 03-14-2010, 01:39 PM   #34
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No Worries... In the motorcycling Colorado book I just sent off to the publisher I call to attention the horrible, unrestrained practice CDOT and County Road & Bridge departments have with the dumping of sand on roads. I also call out annual county habits of pouring dirt on road shoulders which makes the corners filthy from cars cutting the corners... right where we don't want the slippery grit. Safer alternatives are suggested as well.
Congrats on finishing and getting your book published. I'm looking forward to buying a copy.

That's interesting you mention the sand, and Road and Bridge dept. I rode Lookout Mt. on Wednesday and the road was covered with sand. I never saw it so bad. Even the cage drivers at Buffalo Bills were pissed. I called up Jefferson County Road and Bridge at Lookout and complained. The guy was a motorcyclist, but said he had to sand for the cars. I then called up their main office at Golden Gate. They said they didn't have to, but they liked to sweep up the sand by three days after a storm to reduce the brown cloud. I rode Lookout yesterday and it actually had been swept. Why don't you run for public office? We could use some motorcyclist lawmakers.
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Old 03-15-2010, 05:06 AM   #35
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Oh I've exchanged many messages with the head of JeffCo R&B. Got a little heated about ten months ago when a friend behind me went down due to the sand. Almost lost a leg. Where it stands now is they want to have lunch with me. I don't think I would be a good politician.

Hey FWIW, one of the 170+ chapters is on Lookout Mountain Road, with several historical photos included. Here's a sneak preview... 90 years ago when the "auto road" was built and today:



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Old 03-15-2010, 12:29 PM   #36
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I know it's not what you're trying to highlight with those two pictures, but it's amazing how much more detail a nice black and white photo can pick up. Looking at the mountain on the left in each picture, all I see is a flat green hill in the color picture while in the black and white there are very clear ridges and valleys.

I'll have to go look at some of my pictures from Hawaii in black and white and see how they compare.
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Old 03-15-2010, 01:22 PM   #37
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I know it's not what you're trying to highlight with those two pictures, but it's amazing how much more detail a nice black and white photo can pick up. Looking at the mountain on the left in each picture, all I see is a flat green hill in the color picture while in the black and white there are very clear ridges and valleys.

I'll have to go look at some of my pictures from Hawaii in black and white and see how they compare.
The basic terrain elements are still there, but you have to account for a century's worth of erosion. Then there's the lighting...
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Old 03-15-2010, 02:25 PM   #38
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The basic terrain elements are still there, but you have to account for a century's worth of erosion. Then there's the lighting...
Drastically visible errosion in 90 years? I think not.
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:02 PM   #39
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Sighting runs are boring, but they prevent easily avoidable emergency situations like this one. Never ass-u-me.
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Old 03-15-2010, 07:32 PM   #40
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Drastically visible errosion in 90 years? I think not.
I think part of the clarity diff is the B&W image has much of the terrain in the sun, creating a texture of outline and shadow, while the color image is mostly in the dull overcast shade except for where the sun is pouring its rays on the divine road.
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