Plug,Patch or New Tire

Amber Lamps · 04-17-2008, 09:29 PM

Ok here's a thread that I'm willing to "debate" and if someone would like to make this a poll...

I bought new tires about a month ago and with the weather being iffy lately,I'd gotten about 1000 miles on the before I picked up a screw. I quick ducked into a Autozone and bought a plug kit. Plugged it,aired it up and rode away. Now,I've used plugs many times and have seen them used without incident but I've always been told by service depts and other riders that they are dangerous.

I have always wondered why do people think that? I have never seen or heard of a plug failing in any type of tire. Even if it did,what's the worst that can happen? The tire goes flat again,right?

Now having said that,I went today and had a patch put on the inside of the tire to stop me from thinking about it. The guy roughed it up,used a fucking 3"x4" patch and THEN put two layers of rubber sealer on top of it. I'd trust that patch on a semi tire!!!

Even with all that,some of the guys here were saying they wouldn't ride on it! So here's the question,of these three options, which would you pick and why?

NONE_too_SOFT · 04-17-2008, 09:36 PM

you've got a few inches of contact with the ground, at speeds up to 150 mph.

Risk a blow out and total your bike cause of a weak spot? ever hear the phrase "a chain is only as strong as its weakest link"?

Amber Lamps · 04-17-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NONE_too_SOFT

you've got a few inches of contact with the ground, at speeds up to 150 mph.

Risk a blow out and total your bike cause of a weak spot? ever hear the phrase "a chain is only as strong as its weakest link"?

Ok,you're a smart fella. Please explain what's causing this blowout? What are the forces at work here? How does an otherwise perfect tire "explode" because of an 1/16 hole with a patch on it? Why is it ok on a vehicle that weighs thousands of pounds but not for one that weight 650lbs with rider? How is the tire "weaker"? Believe it or not,I'm really interested in why people think that a tire will blow up if you patch it. I've heard this pov before.

Btw sometimes the repair is stronger than the original part. A weld is stronger than the steel it holds together.

dReWpY · 04-17-2008, 09:58 PM

done it, would do it again if i had to

when u pick up a nail, a tire doesnt explode, that said i would only plug a rear, never a front

Trip · 04-17-2008, 10:04 PM

I would guess service depts don't do it for insurance reasons. They just don't want the liability that could be possible in the event of a failure.

Personally I wouldn't ride on one, but I wouldn't stop anyone from getting either one if that's what they wanted to do.

dReWpY · 04-17-2008, 10:05 PM

you have rode on one, mine from last year

Trip · 04-17-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by drewpy

you have rode on one, mine from last year

You could of killed me you bastard.

Amber Lamps · 04-17-2008, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip

You could of killed me you bastard.

DUDE! I actually LAUGHED OUT LOUD!!!

NONE_too_SOFT · 04-17-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Ok,you're a smart fella. Please explain what's causing this blowout? What are the forces at work here? How does an otherwise perfect tire "explode" because of an 1/16 hole with a patch on it? Why is it ok on a vehicle that weighs thousands of pounds but not for one that weight 650lbs with rider? How is the tire "weaker"? Believe it or not,I'm really interested in why people think that a tire will blow up if you patch it. I've heard this pov before.

Btw sometimes the repair is stronger than the original part. A weld is stronger than the steel it holds together.

alls im saying that in the rare event that there is extraordinary stress on a tire for whatever reason the first area to fail is going to be that which has a deformity.

I'm not saying the tire will blow out, per say, but it has a greater risk of failing in any way than that of an unscathed tire.

Just playing devils advocate here.

Trip · 04-17-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

DUDE! I actually LAUGHED OUT LOUD!!!

I was more concerned with the fork dumping oil from leaky seals at the time to ask about the condition of his tires.

04-17-2008, 09:29 PM	#1
Amber Lamps Moto GP Star Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 14,556	Plug,Patch or New Tire Ok here's a thread that I'm willing to "debate" and if someone would like to make this a poll... I bought new tires about a month ago and with the weather being iffy lately,I'd gotten about 1000 miles on the before I picked up a screw. I quick ducked into a Autozone and bought a plug kit. Plugged it,aired it up and rode away. Now,I've used plugs many times and have seen them used without incident but I've always been told by service depts and other riders that they are dangerous. I have always wondered why do people think that? I have never seen or heard of a plug failing in any type of tire. Even if it did,what's the worst that can happen? The tire goes flat again,right? Now having said that,I went today and had a patch put on the inside of the tire to stop me from thinking about it. The guy roughed it up,used a fucking 3"x4" patch and THEN put two layers of rubber sealer on top of it. I'd trust that patch on a semi tire!!! Even with all that,some of the guys here were saying they wouldn't ride on it! So here's the question,of these three options, which would you pick and why?

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04-17-2008, 09:36 PM	#2
NONE_too_SOFT Chopstix / \ Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Akron OH Moto: 03 CBR RR Posts: 5,350	you've got a few inches of contact with the ground, at speeds up to 150 mph. Risk a blow out and total your bike cause of a weak spot? ever hear the phrase "a chain is only as strong as its weakest link"?