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Old 11-09-2011, 02:01 PM   #1
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Default WTF! Parents Skip Vaccine, Spread Disease Through Mail

Parents Skip Vaccine, Spread Disease Through Mail
Facebook Site Offered To Ship Infected Items Across Country
By Aaron CooperCNN Medical Producer

POSTED: Wednesday, November 9, 2011
UPDATED: 11:15 am CST November 9, 2011

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(CNN) -- Parents who don't want to give their children the chickenpox vaccine are choosing instead to buy mail-order lollipops already sucked on by sick kids.
They hope their child will get chickenpox and then develop a natural immunity.

CNN affiliate KPHO in Phoenix found a Facebook website called "Find a Pox Party in Your Area," which included postings of parents willing to ship infected items across the country.

"Fresh batch of Pox in Nashville Tennessee. Shipping of suckers, spit, and Q-tips available tomorrow. $50 via PayPal," reads one post. It goes on to explain the money covers overnight shipping.

Parents allow children whose chickenpox is contagious to infect the item before packing and shipping it to parents elsewhere in the country. Those parents then give the items to their children in the hopes they will come down with chickenpox.

"Our round was FedEx'd fromArizona!" reads one Facebook post quoted by KPHO. "We've spread cooties to Cookeville, Knoxville and Louisiana."

The website, which had about 1,000 Facebook likes, has now been removed. Archived versions of the site show its purpose listed as "a group for parents who want their children to obtain natural immunity for the chicken pox."

Sending the saliva, lollipops, or other material could pose other health risks as well. "You are sending out other germs, other bacteria, and you have no idea what is in them" says Dr. Bill Schaffner, chair of the Department of Preventive Medicine at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine. It's not even clear it will work. "It is not a good way to transmit chickenpox" he says. "Typically somebody breathes out the virus and then somebody else breaths it in."

The chickenpox (or varicella) vaccine became available in the United States in 1995. Nearly 6% of parents don't vaccinate their children with it as recommended, according to a study published last month in the journal Pediatrics.

Side effects of the vaccine include soreness or swelling where the shot was given, a fever in one in 10 people, and a rash in one out of 25. Seizure and pneumonia are also possible, but the CDC says they are "very rare" adding "getting chickenpox vaccine is much safer than getting chickenpox disease."

Before the vaccine, chickenpox caused more than 10,000 hospitalizations in an average year in the U.S., and between 1990 and 1994 about 50 children and 50 adults died each year according to the CDC. The majority were in previously healthy individuals.

"What is obviously going on is we have some mothers who are trying to be imaginative and are vaccine skeptics," says Schaffner. He says this is a new variation of the chickenpox party, where parents would allow healthy children to play with infected ones to get the virus. "Chickenpox parties are really bad ideas," he says. "There is not a pediatrician in the country that would recommend this."

KPHO also found a few comments where parents were looking to have their children infected with measles mumps and rubella. Those diseases could be even more dangerous.

What these parents are doing violates federal law according to Jerry Martin, the U.S. Attorney for the Middle District of Tennessee. "Sending a virus or disease through the U.S. mail is illegal," he says. "Also, it is against federal law to adulterate or tamper with consumer products, such as candy. Finally, it is illegal to introduce into interstate commerce unauthorized biological materials."

Policy prevents him from saying whether his office is investigating parents who sent the lollipops and other items.

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Old 11-09-2011, 02:02 PM   #2
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Heard about this on the radio.

Sending bodily fluids is gross (and apparently illegal) but I see no issue with "Pox parties."

Que the outrage.
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:12 PM   #3
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Fuck those idiots... some sick bastard is going to anthrax a few hundred of those lollies and then what?

The anti-vaccine thing has been debunked if anyone cared to research it... in fact, the whole thing started from one source who was fucking lying his ass off and has since recanted... nobody cares to check because they're fucking idiots.

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Old 11-09-2011, 02:32 PM   #4
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A whole story based on one now defunct Facebook page? Skeptical...
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Old 11-09-2011, 03:38 PM   #5
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Jesus, you wear socks on your dickbeaters for a couple days. What's the big deal?
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Old 11-09-2011, 03:49 PM   #6
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Ew.

That said, my kids were vaccinated. Them they both got chicken pox years later. We had the whole neighborhood over...
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:46 PM   #7
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Freakin' EW.

That's like ABC gum.
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:13 PM   #8
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Just let them get it. It sucks, but not getting them again (most people) is just fine.
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Old 11-11-2011, 05:22 PM   #9
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The anti-vaccine thing has been debunked if anyone cared to research it...
I thought it was debunked in the 1950s when people quit getting polio (except in bumblefuck locations of the world) and other diseases?

If that isn't enough for them, then we can go along with teh H1N1. A few years ago isn't the 1st time we heard of the H1N1 virus. There was a little thing in early 20th century called the 1918 influenza pandemic. 40million+ people died form that. We get the same thing in 2009 and in the US we get 12,470 deaths according the CDC. That's less death than we have from the normal flu. Couldn't find worldwide statistics but I feel it isn't 40million despite we travel internationally more and there are more people to spread it.

Personally I say let them not vaccinate and play with the MMRs. Odds are some of them will die and they won't produce anymore.
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