France: Youths Riot in Streets over Retirement Age

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Typical of the young, to be lacking in math skills. If the retirement age is increased then old fuckers have to work longer, reducing the drain on Federal resources. That means by the time they retire, they might even be able to drop the age again. If the age of retirement doesn't change, then they will be paying higher taxes to cover the people who are no longer earning a wage.

Dumbasses.

You know damn well the govt. will never "give back" anything. Silly you.

It is really amazing that the youth would be worrying about retirement at this age, but when you groom someone to be dependant upon the government for most things, you inherently see this menality.

[tallywacker]

Working till your dead is a given, It's a new cool idea in history to think your entitled to ANYTHING.

[Homeslice]

Or how about how US state/federal workers think they deserve a pension even if they are just some desk jockey.
Those dumbasses should try working in the private sector.....They'd probably work longer hours and STILL get no pension.

[Captain Morgan]

This doesn't seem much different than our problems with SS. Was just talking with co-workers today and we figure one of two things will happen with SS. A. it will go bankrupt before we reach an age to be paid any SS money. B. collection age will be raised to 90 in order to keep SS "profitable"

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Captain Morgan

This doesn't seem much different than our problems with SS. Was just talking with co-workers today and we figure one of two things will happen with SS. A. it will go bankrupt before we reach an age to be paid any SS money. B. collection age will be raised to 90 in order to keep SS "profitable"

Unless something changes SS is nothing more than a black hole. When the system was created only something like 1 in 7 people were expected to collect. That math has significantly changed but the SS system has not adapted. Under the current system SS is unsustainable.

Also, my math was off. I screwed up and added 10 years to everything. It is actually going from an average of 21.5 years to 19.5 years for French citizens after retirement.

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Or how about how US state/federal workers think they deserve a pension even if they are just some desk jockey.
Those dumbasses should try working in the private sector.....They'd probably work longer hours and STILL get no pension.

Dont forget many of the union workers in the US, its all the same mentality.

[Captain Morgan]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Or how about how US state/federal workers think they deserve a pension even if they are just some desk jockey.
Those dumbasses should try working in the private sector.....They'd probably work longer hours and STILL get no pension.

Federal workers no longer get a pension. It's basically a 401k, the same as most other jobs these days. The one thing we do get, that most companies don't offer, is our health insurance stays the same when we retire as it is when we're employed. Granted, that will likely change, but that's the plan as it currently stands.

[Smittie61984]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Those dumbasses should try working in the private sector.....They'd probably work longer hours and STILL get no pension.

They would but McDonalds doesn't like to take chances.

I don't know why the French youth are rioting about retirement. Shouldn't the first thing they riot about be about getting employed? Though I'm sure France's labor protection laws have helped that out greatly. Why hire some unknown 22 year old who hasn't worked a day in their life and you can't fire them if they suck when you can hire a 30 year old who has experience and is shown to be a dependable worker?

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Smittie61984

They would but McDonalds doesn't like to take chances.

I don't know why the French youth are rioting about retirement. Shouldn't the first thing they riot about be about getting employed? Though I'm sure France's labor protection laws have helped that out greatly. Why hire some unknown 22 year old who hasn't worked a day in their life and you can't fire them if they suck when you can hire a 30 year old who has experience and is shown to be a dependable worker?

Riots in France are traditional. They don't need to have a real reason. Hell, they would tear the place down if there was a Jerry Lewis retrospective, and they didn't include "The Nutty Professor."

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Smittie61984

They would but McDonalds doesn't like to take chances.

I don't know why the French youth are rioting about retirement. Shouldn't the first thing they riot about be about getting employed? Though I'm sure France's labor protection laws have helped that out greatly. Why hire some unknown 22 year old who hasn't worked a day in their life and you can't fire them if they suck when you can hire a 30 year old who has experience and is shown to be a dependable worker?

Getting employment is one of the reasons French youths are rioting. They say making older people work two more years before they can collect their government retirement benefits forces more people to remain in an already overloaded workforce. The youth say this will further contract the number of already scarce job opportunities available to them. With France's onerous laws governing employment that you mentioned the youth may be right.