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Old 01-15-2010, 09:21 PM   #91
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Ok, so now you're heading over the cliff at Mach 5, instead of Mach 10.

Let me break this down further. Over the side of the cliff, is a 1000 foot drop, into a pool of sharks with laser beams. Do you "hope" you stop in time, or do you lowside into the guard rail?

Yes, you're fucked either way. The question is: How fucked?

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In most cases you will still fly over the bike if you lay it down. I've seen it happen 3 or 4 times unless you get wedged under the bike. But then, the guardrail may slice you up (I've seen that too).
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Old 01-15-2010, 09:27 PM   #92
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Um, no. The bottom line is that if you ride a motorcycle you should be open to doing whatever it takes to keep your ass alive.

Knowing how to lay a bike down is an actual skill, it's just not one that you possess.....
I don't agree at all. All this "it pulled out in front of me" is simply a result of not looking at what is on the side of the road.

Laying a bike down is retarded unless you are trying to go under a semi.
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Old 01-15-2010, 10:09 PM   #93
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In most cases you will still fly over the bike if you lay it down. I've seen it happen 3 or 4 times unless you get wedged under the bike. But then, the guardrail may slice you up (I've seen that too).
Son a bitch! Somebody has been tampering with the 25 years of racing I've been watching on TV, when low slides result in not "flying over the bike". What's really spooky, is that 99.9% of the low sides I saw in person, also didn't result in this miraculous flying ability. Weird...

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I don't agree at all. All this "it pulled out in front of me" is simply a result of not looking at what is on the side of the road.
Have you been licking toads?

Do the phrases "Blind Corner", "Blind Hill", and "Blind Driveway" ring any bells? Do you know what the word "Blind" means, right?

For someone who rides Angeles Crest, (my old stomping grounds) you must ride awfully slow if you can see what's coming behind all those big ass rocks.

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Old 01-15-2010, 10:38 PM   #94
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No two ways about it; if someone suddenly came at me with a car, I just might throw the bike at them, and hope to stay out of the resultant tangle.
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Old 01-15-2010, 11:52 PM   #95
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Son a bitch! Somebody has been tampering with the 25 years of racing I've been watching on TV, when low slides result in not "flying over the bike". What's really spooky, is that 99.9% of the low sides I saw in person, also didn't result in this miraculous flying ability. Weird...
You were saying to run the bike up against the guardrail. Racers don't have guard rails to hit.


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....Have you been licking toads?

Do the phrases "Blind Corner", "Blind Hill", and "Blind Driveway" ring any bells? Do you know what the word "Blind" means, right?

For someone who rides Angeles Crest, (my old stomping grounds) you must ride awfully slow if you can see what's coming behind all those big ass rocks.

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I ride Ortega..not ACH. If you are flying around blind corners and a car is right there in your lane then you are gonna hit it. You can't overcome physics. It takes time to serve, but in no way would I lay it down if this occured. This IS what we are talking about.
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:42 AM   #96
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You were saying to run the bike up against the guardrail. Racers don't have guard rails to hit.
Tell that to the guys who race Macau.

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I ride Ortega..not ACH.
Been there, done that. The section right before you get to Lake Elisinore kicks ass. Tight as hell. Most of it blind.

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If you are flying around blind corners and a car is right there in your lane then you are gonna hit it. You can't overcome physics. It takes time to serve, but in no way would I lay it down if this occured. This IS what we are talking about.
Who the fuck is we?

You just said it only takes 3 feet to swerve. So which is it? If you hit something it's your fault for not seeing it, or it's impossible to not hit things you can't see?

You a funny man.

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Old 01-16-2010, 10:16 AM   #97
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I wouldn't try to lay it down regardless of the circumstances... cliff scenario, I'd hammer the brakes and perhaps jump off, but I still wouldnt try to lay the bike down...

I would say laying the bike down would be pretty easy if one were trying... rear brake like a champ and goose the bar, it'll go down... Why anyone would every want to do that is beyond me, but whatever... Stupid is as stupid does.
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I'd like to know why and how the helmet got down in with the bike?
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Old 01-16-2010, 11:37 PM   #99
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.....You just said it only takes 3 feet to swerve. So which is it? If you hit something it's your fault for not seeing it, or it's impossible to not hit things you can't see?

You a funny man.

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Swerve of course, but if you go around a corner and for some odd reason a car or another bike is right in your lane...then BAM...you might end up a hood ornament or if you have time to swerve then that option should be first.
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....Been there, done that. The section right before you get to Lake Elisinore kicks ass. Tight as hell. Most of it blind....
That section is pretty much all we ride on Sunday. The Lookout to the bottom of the mountain. Pretty much our little free track away from home.
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