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Old 06-05-2009, 10:14 AM   #101
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It doesn't really matter if he pleads not guilty, the prosecutor can amend the charge to include the lessor charge anyway, (if I'm reading this right).

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No matter the charge, he should plead not guilty anyway. Why plea bargain to a lesser charge? I don't see a case where this guy will get convicted of ANYTHING unless he comes out and admits that he was not fearful of his life. If he says that, all bets are off and his ass is going to prison.
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:15 AM   #102
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Next step: Do away with the trial and just fry their asses because they've been accused.
Be real, there's no need to exaggerate.
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:30 AM   #103
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That's ALL of them.
So if the pharmacist is convicted, he should get the chair?

I mean, he is a convicted murderer at that point....

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Old 06-05-2009, 10:31 AM   #104
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So if the pharmacist is convicted, he should get the chair?

I mean, he is a convicted murderer at that point....

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Yes, if he is convicted of 1st degree murder(which he won't) he should get the chair.
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No matter the charge, he should plead not guilty anyway. Why plea bargain to a lesser charge? I don't see a case where this guy will get convicted of ANYTHING unless he comes out and admits that he was not fearful of his life. If he says that, all bets are off and his ass is going to prison.
It's a tricky call. Juries do some weird shit. They might want the maximum sentence for manslaughter, instead of the minimum he might be able to plea for.

In light of the video, and the fact that he lied to police about being shot at...well, a bird in the hand, and all that.

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Be real, there's no need to exaggerate.
I feel the same way about you saying that everyone convicted of homicide should fry. An ex-neighbour of mine was a bouncer in a club and caught some guy trying to rape a girl in the alley outside. He hit the guy a little too hard and a few times too many, and killed him. Went to prison for murder. Should he have fried?
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:03 AM   #107
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I feel the same way about you saying that everyone convicted of homicide should fry. An ex-neighbour of mine was a bouncer in a club and caught some guy trying to rape a girl in the alley outside. He hit the guy a little too hard and a few times too many, and killed him. Went to prison for murder. Should he have fried?
Was he convicted of 1st degree murder? I doubt it.
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Was he convicted of 1st degree murder? I doubt it.
We don't have "murder 1" in Canada. Our term is "culpable homicide" and he was convicted of it. Ended up serving something like 12 years.

Correction: The Criminal Code now appears to contain the words "first degree murder" and you are correct, that isn't what he was charged with, or convicted of. I need to update my reading list.
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