New car / truck prices... - Page 2

defector · 02-02-2011, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Fuck trucks, they are a ripoff, precisely because you guys keep buying them.

So what exactly am I supposed to pull the toy hauler with?

Hydrant · 02-02-2011, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Fuck trucks, they are a ripoff, precisely because you guys keep buying them.

When they come up with a car that can pull a 22' boat (or get through a muddy jobsite, pull a trailer with quads or bikes or other junk), loaded with coolers, gear, and people, then I might take a look. Until then I don't see myself being in a car

CasterTroy · 02-02-2011, 01:41 PM

What'll REALLY kick you in the dick is the bigger broader picture down the road.

That ranger MAY get 15mpg and that full size with a V8 will get 20mpg

My old boss use to buy the v6 work truck edition chevy's for service vehicles. He got MAYBE 17mpg out of them

So he decided to buy a few rangers to save on up front cost + fuel cost......they got 12-14mpg

He decided to buy 3 new v8 chevy's and they get over 20 plus they were only slightly more money than the rangers.

Over the long term the v8 work chevy's are costing a lot less.

He determined that the drivers of the rangers were giving the little 4 bangers all they had to get up to speed...thus KILLING the mileages. Where the v8's they didn't have to press the gas hard at all. So they weren't working them as hard.

Triple · 02-02-2011, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CasterTroy

That ranger MAY get 15mpg and that full size with a V8 will get 20mpg.

I averaged 25mpg with my Sonoma and could get more on extended freeway trips. Nothing amazing for a 4-cylinder, but good enough for a truck.

I know a few people with newer V8 Chevies and they all report excellent mileage. I wouldn't mind one at all; just wish you could get one with a stick.

My Dakota does not get good mileage. No better than the full-size Ram I had prior to the Sonoma.

smileyman · 02-02-2011, 02:24 PM

I always buy Oct - Dec with the yr end rebates...Short bed full size FTW

OneSickPsycho · 02-02-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple

A new, base-model 4-cylinder, 5-speed Ranger costs almost $18K..?

Base-model, full-size Chevy work trucks that start above $20K..?

I just saw a commercial for a local dealer - 2011 Rangers $13,500.

101lifts2 · 02-03-2011, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CasterTroy

What'll REALLY kick you in the dick is the bigger broader picture down the road.

That ranger MAY get 15mpg and that full size with a V8 will get 20mpg

My old boss use to buy the v6 work truck edition chevy's for service vehicles. He got MAYBE 17mpg out of them

So he decided to buy a few rangers to save on up front cost + fuel cost......they got 12-14mpg

He decided to buy 3 new v8 chevy's and they get over 20 plus they were only slightly more money than the rangers.

Over the long term the v8 work chevy's are costing a lot less.

He determined that the drivers of the rangers were giving the little 4 bangers all they had to get up to speed...thus KILLING the mileages. Where the v8's they didn't have to press the gas hard at all. So they weren't working them as hard.

Yep...esp. with the cylinder deactivation.

The 4.3L 2007 Silverado I had got 17-19...and the V-8 got 17-21.

goof2 · 02-02-2011, 03:03 PM

Trucks/SUVs have a lot of profit margin built in to their MSRPs. That's also why what used to be the big three built the shit out of them. With the difficulties selling them there is no reason you should be paying anywhere near MSRP when buying one.

My 2004 Nissan Frontier 4 banger, 5 speed averages well over 20mpg city and highway and I'm pretty aggressive with the throttle.

TYEster · 02-02-2011, 08:56 PM

I'd like to know why new jeeps cost $30k and even 10 year old ones cost over 10k...

I wanted one as a fun offroad toy, but what the fuck? These are the shitty no-door having 4cyl with "offroad" tires that were as slick as drag radials. Did I miss where they were worth their weight in gold? I mean, they don't pull over 20mpgs with lifts and tires I'd want.

Rangerscott · 02-03-2011, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TYEster

I'd like to know why new jeeps cost $30k and even 10 year old ones cost over 10k...

I wanted one as a fun offroad toy, but what the fuck? These are the shitty no-door having 4cyl with "offroad" tires that were as slick as drag radials. Did I miss where they were worth their weight in gold? I mean, they don't pull over 20mpgs with lifts and tires I'd want.

Jeep pricing is the same as Harley pricing. The name brings a premium.

Pickup options suck these days. It's either baseline model or fully decked out. There's no in between.

02-02-2011, 01:41 PM	#3
CasterTroy ................ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NC Posts: 3,028	What'll REALLY kick you in the dick is the bigger broader picture down the road. That ranger MAY get 15mpg and that full size with a V8 will get 20mpg My old boss use to buy the v6 work truck edition chevy's for service vehicles. He got MAYBE 17mpg out of them So he decided to buy a few rangers to save on up front cost + fuel cost......they got 12-14mpg He decided to buy 3 new v8 chevy's and they get over 20 plus they were only slightly more money than the rangers. Over the long term the v8 work chevy's are costing a lot less. He determined that the drivers of the rangers were giving the little 4 bangers all they had to get up to speed...thus KILLING the mileages. Where the v8's they didn't have to press the gas hard at all. So they weren't working them as hard. __________________ “Being tolerant does not mean that I share another one’s belief. But it does mean that I acknowledge another one’s right to believe, and obey, his own conscience.” Viktor Frankl

02-02-2011, 02:24 PM	#5
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	I always buy Oct - Dec with the yr end rebates...Short bed full size FTW __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

02-02-2011, 03:03 PM	#8
goof2 AMA Supersport Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,756	Trucks/SUVs have a lot of profit margin built in to their MSRPs. That's also why what used to be the big three built the shit out of them. With the difficulties selling them there is no reason you should be paying anywhere near MSRP when buying one. My 2004 Nissan Frontier 4 banger, 5 speed averages well over 20mpg city and highway and I'm pretty aggressive with the throttle.

02-02-2011, 08:56 PM	#9
TYEster With MORE TYEstosterone Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: TX Moto: '12 KX450F / 08 YZ250F #512 / 07 KX65 #1 Posts: 1,429	I'd like to know why new jeeps cost $30k and even 10 year old ones cost over 10k... I wanted one as a fun offroad toy, but what the fuck? These are the shitty no-door having 4cyl with "offroad" tires that were as slick as drag radials. Did I miss where they were worth their weight in gold? I mean, they don't pull over 20mpgs with lifts and tires I'd want.