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Old 07-04-2011, 04:39 PM   #21
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As long as you have the health insurance to back it up, you're right.

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So make that the requirement for going bucketless.

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Old 07-04-2011, 04:48 PM   #22
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She has been riding for 10 years without ever using the front brake. I told her that if she could do a stoppie and go over the bars on her bagger she would defy the laws of physics and should win Stunt Wars.

I was shocked.
I've met my fair share of folks that were taught that it is bad to use the front brake.

The best logic I have heard was that the rear wheel could lock up and skid, but you can recover from that, if the front wheel locks up you will wash out the front and there is no way to recover from that
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Old 07-04-2011, 05:02 PM   #23
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If only that worked for this guy, huh? Oh well. So much for that idea.

Use the front brake, kids. Physics. It's the law.
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Old 07-04-2011, 05:03 PM   #24
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So make that the requirement for going bucketless.

Done.
People who refuse to wear helmets would probably look at that as an infringement of their right to be stupid. Such a law would also be nearly unenforceable. How are the cops supposed to know you're "exempt from self-preservation", without pulling you over?

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Secondary violation, loss of license.
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Secondary violation, loss of license.
That's all fine and good, but it doesn't answer the question.

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Same strategy used to keep people from driving cars without insurance.

Will it stop all illegal activity of this kind? No.

Has ANY law ever done that? Not that I'm aware of.
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Old 07-04-2011, 05:46 PM   #28
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Answer B:

Tag on license plate.

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Cops have computers. Run the tag; if it comes up "approved for personal liberty / head trauma", don't pull him over.

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If only that worked for this guy, huh? Oh well. So much for that idea.

Use the front brake, kids. Physics. It's the law.
I've met plenty who are terrified of the front brake. Almost all of them have wrecked at least once by getting into situations where they were not able to stop fast enough.
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Old 07-04-2011, 08:21 PM   #30
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People who refuse to wear helmets would probably look at that as an infringement of their right to be stupid. Such a law would also be nearly unenforceable. How are the cops supposed to know you're "exempt from self-preservation", without pulling you over?

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From this same news story on a kawi triple forum
I've been riding continuously for 44 years youngster. It's my opinion you are 100% wrong but that's beside the point. This is America, I'm tired of loosing personal privileges to the fricking liberals who know everything that's for my own good. I left California for that very same reason. I live in a state where personal freedoms are abundant. We used to have a helmet law and it was repealed long ago. We have races up mountains where you can park your chair anywhere you want. If you get run over because you're stupid - tough but it's your life.

I'll concede helmets can save lives, but do the proper research and you'll find that an overwhelming percentage of deaths involving motorcycles - wearing a helmet would not have mattered anyway. In fact there is a small percentage where perception impairment was a contributing factor.
People pushing helmet laws are idiots because they're ignorant of real facts or they live in a state where if injured the state will carry you for life so it becomes a financial issue disguised behind a mandatory law. We don't have stupid laws like that where I live!

Myself and only for myself - I have a living will, a DNR, organ donor card, plenty of medical insurance and life insurance too. My kids are grown and I'm an adult. If I die tomorrow from ANY cause I won't be a burden financially to anyone or anything. I live my life the way I choose - not by somebody's sense of what's good for me or a hidden agenda.



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It's not a political issue, or a personal rights issue. Driving is a priviledge, not a right! If you live in a country, and are allowed to leave, then it is your duty to that country to abide by it's laws.

The helmets law is for the the "ones" that don't have any common sense.

The ones that can truely, and morally, not wear a helmet when riding, are the ones with no family or friends. For the simple reason, if a person is so self centered they they don't care about their family/friends/and loved ones, the ones that will hurt for the rest of their lives because of whatever reason that person didn't wear a helmet.

It doesn't (or ever mattered) if it's a law or not, it's the respect for the people that know and love you. Family and friends will understand if you have a dangerous hobby/job, but never will, if they lose you out of you own arrogance.

The guy is dead, he is not suffering like the rest of his family will the rest of their lives...........

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