Dude got what he deserved

[z06boy]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

You ate exactly right, I was assuming the black was reacting to insults from the white man. I absolutely have no proof of this and was attempting to defend him without merit. I see now that I was wrong and was actually being even more racist by defending him. I would like to again apologize for my statements and hope that you all can forgive me for my ignorance in this any many other matters of this nature. If it is any consolation, I am now pledging to forgo my self appointed role as "the defender of African Americans" on this board.
Quite frankly they don't deserve my defense of them for the most part.

What a trip...if you really posted this.

Let me get one thing straight...people have verbally pizzed me off and I have thrown the first punch in an altercation before HOWEVER when I did...it was MY fault that the situation turned physical and IF I had gotten my azz handed to me...there would be no one to blame but me.

I've also stated that I wouldn't want to be around the old white dude period...he comes off as an instigator and has a screw loose and I also said the black guy is probably an ok person to be around when he's not drinking so I sure am not taking sides due to race.

I did say in an earlier post that I was glad to see that when the white guy started winning that other blacks didn't join in and help the black guy just because he's black and I still feel that way. I've seen it happen too many times in my life and I hate that chit.

[Kaneman]

I don't agree with that Z06. There are situations where it should be perfectly acceptable to throw the first punch without being at fault.

Verbal threats are one. "Hey buddy, I'm gonna kick 'yer ass" *BAM!* Just depends on the situation.

Someone grabs your wife's ass. *KERPLOW!*

A dude pushes your kid down on purpose *BANG!*

And so on. We've got to stop viewing violence with a no-tolerance outlook.

[marko138]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

I don't agree with that Z06. There are situations where it should be perfectly acceptable to throw the first punch without being at fault.

Verbal threats are one. "Hey buddy, I'm gonna kick 'yer ass" *BAM!* Just depends on the situation.

Someone grabs your wife's ass. *KERPLOW!*

A dude pushes your kid down on purpose *BANG!*

And so on. We've got to stop viewing violence with a no-tolerance outlook.

[z06boy]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

I don't agree with that Z06. There are situations where it should be perfectly acceptable to throw the first punch without being at fault.

Verbal threats are one. "Hey buddy, I'm gonna kick 'yer ass" *BAM!* Just depends on the situation.

Someone grabs your wife's ass. *KERPLOW!*

A dude pushes your kid down on purpose *BANG!*

And so on. We've got to stop viewing violence with a no-tolerance outlook.

Well we aren't really in disagreement...except maybe in your first example. If you threw the first punch then yes you made it physical and I've been guilty of that myself. Yes it does depend on the exact situation though.

In your other examples...they touched your wife and they pushed your kid...that made it physical...not you for cold cocking them.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by z06boy

Well we aren't really in disagreement...except maybe in your first example. If you threw the first punch then yes you made it physical and I've been guilty of that myself. Yes it does depend on the exact situation though.

In your other examples...they touched your wife and they pushed your kid...that made it physical...not you for cold cocking them.

The first one is in response to a verbal threat depending on the situation. You can look at someone and know if they're serious most of the time. If someone TELLS you that they're about to try to physically harm you and you know they mean it, then you'd be an idiot to wait. A simple threat assessment will dictate your response.

"Fightins commenced Ike, get to fightin' or get out"

Punches are harder to dodge than you might think, always better to get the first one in if the situation warrants it.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by z06boy

What a trip...if you really posted this.

Let me get one thing straight...people have verbally pizzed me off and I have thrown the first punch in an altercation before HOWEVER when I did...it was MY fault that the situation turned physical and IF I had gotten my azz handed to me...there would be no one to blame but me.

I've also stated that I wouldn't want to be around the old white dude period...he comes off as an instigator and has a screw loose and I also said the black guy is probably an ok person to be around when he's not drinking so I sure am not taking sides due to race.

I did say in an earlier post that I was glad to see that when the white guy started winning that other blacks didn't join in and help the black guy just because he's black and I still feel that way. I've seen it happen too many times in my life and I hate that chit.

Oh for sure I too have witnessed their propensity to gang up on individuals and have actually been the victim of black gang violence in the past. It is a disgusting trait which I have zero tolerance for. In my defense I can say that I have never gathered my homies together to attack a single person but have always handled my battles on an individual basis.

[z06boy]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

The first one is in response to a verbal threat depending on the situation. You can look at someone and know if they're serious most of the time. If someone TELLS you that they're about to try to physically harm you and you know they mean it, then you'd be an idiot to wait. A simple threat assessment will dictate your response.

"Fightins commenced Ike, get to fightin' or get out"

Punches are harder to dodge than you might think, always better to get the first one in if the situation warrants it.

I agreed that it depended on the situation...right ?

I also said I've thrown the first punch...more than once but I also said that it was ME that actually made it physical.

If I think for a second that you're about to come at me...I guarantee I'm not gonna just stand there...been there and done that and most likely will again.

Again...it DOES depend on the situation.

Oh yeah...punches are not harder to dodge than I might think...I've been hit more than once.

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Oh for sure I too have witnessed their propensity to gang up on individuals and have actually been the victim of black gang violence in the past. It is a disgusting trait which I have zero tolerance for. In my defense I can say that I have never gathered my homies together to attack a single person but have always handled my battles on an individual basis.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

I'm sorry I didn't mean to imply that you had stated that the black Guy was at fault, I was simply stating that I now blame him for the altercation. He certainly did get what he deserved and I hope for his sake that he has learned his lesson. I honestly do admire the fact that you have been able to avoid verbally provoked violence for your entire life. I'm not sure but I doubt many others can make such a claim, again I certainly can not. Again please accept my apology if I inadvertently misconstrued your comments, sir. That was not my intention. Thank you for your forbearance in this matter.

Why am I picturing an evil grin and maniacal laughter from you, while you were typing this?

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by z06boy

I agreed that it depended on the situation...right ?

I also said I've thrown the first punch...more than once but I also said that it was ME that actually made it physical.

What I was disagreeing with was the notion that you were at fault for throwing the first punch.

[z06boy]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Why am I picturing an evil grin and maniacal laughter from you, while you were typing this?