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Old 11-17-2009, 05:15 PM   #1
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Doesn't matter, she choseto have a baby and babies don't go well with military life. Pick one or the other but you can't do both alone(ie.. no father around).
Yes this is true. Like Zoomie said.....father's want equal rights until it comes time for responsibility. But like this story, we have no information about the father so I can't really say he's like that. Just funny how there were no cries of "where's the father" from anyone and a whole lot of "quit fucking without a rubber" comments. Interesting that's all.

She definitely isn't doing a very good job of juggling the two.
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Old 11-17-2009, 03:12 PM   #2
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Why put the child into foster care? Why not onto the father's doorstep? Choice or no choice, I hear so many people squabble over fathers rights. Then, something like this happens.
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Old 11-17-2009, 03:18 PM   #3
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Why put the child into foster care? Why not onto the father's doorstep?
Beat me to it. Article said she no longer had a relationship with the father - it didn't say he was dead. Therefore IMO, he has as much responsibility as she does. (Unless proven to be unfit, or whatever they call it nowadays).
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also it has to do w/ military discipline. the reality is that these are soldiers and at any could be sent into harms way. breaking down that discipline is a big deal.

on another board an guy my age 40+ posed a good question, would you be able to storm on the shores of normandy knowing that so many were gonna die.

and yeah everybodys gung-ho, but it took HUGE brass balls to come outta that troop carrier as the first wave.

we have become a nation an panzies.
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Old 11-17-2009, 04:25 PM   #5
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also it has to do w/ military discipline. the reality is that these are soldiers and at any could be sent into harms way. breaking down that discipline is a big deal.

on another board an guy my age 40+ posed a good question, would you be able to storm on the shores of normandy knowing that so many were gonna die.

and yeah everybodys gung-ho, but it took HUGE brass balls to come outta that troop carrier as the first wave.

we have become a nation an panzies.
Understandable till the last line, bravo sir, bravo!

Kidding aside, I understand and agree with ya.
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Understandable till the last line, bravo sir, bravo!

Kidding aside, I understand and agree with ya.
i meant to post

we have become a nation of panzies.

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Old 11-17-2009, 04:34 PM   #7
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we have become a nation of panzies.


I know. Im just teasing you.
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:53 PM   #8
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Army Sends Infant to Protective Services, Mom to Afghanistan

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VENTURA, California, Nov 13 (IPS) - U.S. Army Specialist Alexis Hutchinson, a single mother, is being threatened with a military court-martial if she does not agree to deploy to Afghanistan, despite having been told she would be granted extra time to find someone to care for her 11-month-old son while she is overseas.
Hutchinson, of Oakland, California, is currently being confined at Hunter Army Airfield near Savannah, Georgia, after being arrested. Her son was placed into a county foster care system.

Hutchinson has been threatened with a court martial if she does not agree to deploy to Afghanistan on Sunday, Nov. 15. She has been attempting to find someone to take care of her child, Kamani, while she is deployed overseas, but to no avail.

According to the family care plan of the U.S. Army, Hutchinson was allowed to fly to California and leave her son with her mother, Angelique Hughes of Oakland.

However, after a week of caring for the child, Hughes realised she was unable to care for Kamani along with her other duties of caring for a daughter with special needs, her ailing mother, and an ailing sister.

In late October, Angelique Hughes told Hutchinson and her commander that she would be unable to care for Kamani after all. The Army then gave Hutchinson an extension of time to allow her to find someone else to care for Kamani. Meanwhile, Hughes brought Kamani back to Georgia to be with his mother.

However, only a few days before Hutchinson's original deployment date, she was told by the Army she would not get the time extension after all, and would have to deploy, despite not having found anyone to care for her child.

Faced with this choice, Hutchinson chose not to show up for her plane to Afghanistan. The military arrested her and placed her child in the county foster care system.

Currently, Hutchinson is scheduled to fly to Afghanistan on Sunday for a special court martial, where she then faces up to one year in jail.

Hutchinson's civilian lawyer, Rai Sue Sussman, told IPS, "The core issue is that they are asking her to make an inhumane choice. She did not have a complete family care plan, meaning she did not find someone to provide long-term care for her child. She's required to have a complete family care plan, and was told she'd have an extension, but then they changed it on her."

Asked why she believes the military revoked Hutchinson's extension, Sussman responded, "I think they didn't believe her that she was unable to find someone to care for her infant. They think she's just trying to get out of her deployment. But she's just trying to find someone she can trust to take care of her baby."

Hutchinson's mother has flown to Georgia to retrieve the baby, but is overwhelmed and does not feel able to provide long-term care for the child.

According to Sussman, the soldier needs more time to find someone to care for her infant, but does not as yet have friends or family able to do so.

Sussman says Hutchinson told her, "It is outrageous that they would deploy a single mother without a complete and current family care plan. I would like to find someone I trust who can take care of my son, but I cannot force my family to do this. They are dealing with their own health issues."

Sussman told IPS that the Army's JAG attorney, Captain Ed Whitford, "told me they thought her chain of command thought she was trying to get out of her deployment by using her child as an excuse." '

Major Gallagher, of Hutchinson's unit, also told Sussman that he did not believe it was a real family crisis, and that Hutchinson's "mother should have been able to take care of the baby".

In addition, according to Sussman, a First Sergeant Gephart "told me he thought she [Hutchinson] was pulling her family care plan stuff to get out of her deployment".

"To me it sounds completely bogus," Sussman told IPS, "I think what they are actually going to do is have her spend her year deployment in Afghanistan, then court martial her back here upon her return. This would do irreparable harm to her child. I think they are doing this to punish her, because they think she is lying."

Sussman explained that she believes the best possible outcome is for the Army to either give Hutchinson the extension they had said she would receive so that she can find someone to care for her infant, or barring this, to simply discharge her so she can take care of her child.

Nevertheless, Hutchinson is simply asking for the time extension to complete her family care plan, and not to be discharged.

"I'm outraged by this," Sussman told IPS, "I've never gone to the media with a military client, but this situation is just completely over the top."
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:59 PM   #9
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of course it's the army's fault............DUH!

if hte army didn't want her to get prego, they woulda issued standard military condoms!
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:02 PM   #10
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So she doesnt want to go on deployment but doesnt want to be discharged, cant have it both ways.

I wonder if the army has any sort of provisions to help in situations like this I am sure this isnt the first time something like this has happened.

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