The Hulkster would be proud - Page 4

Amber Lamps · 11-26-2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrant

I'll say you got me on that one.

I agree with you that enviroment does play a huuuuuge part on how police will react to a situation. They become callised to their enviroment and the people they deal with and then every situation becomes a repeat of a bad one the night before, which in reality is sad. It would be great if police would start everyday as a new day and let the past be the past, but you and I know that will never happen. Unfortunately.

True... I wonder if they could alleviate some of this problem by rotating the cops more.

VatorMan · 11-27-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

True... I wonder if they could alleviate some of this problem by rotating the cops more.

The situation could allievate itself if said hoodrats would behave themselves. Any you wonder why cops profile.

Please.

Avatard · 11-27-2010, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by VatorMan

The situation could allievate itself if said hoodrats would behave themselves. Any you wonder why cops profile.

Please.

Justifying the misbehavior of one group based on the behavior of another?

Reasoning (and lawmaking, peacekeeping, and freedom) Fail.

Please.

Amber Lamps · 11-27-2010, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VatorMan

The situation could allievate itself if said hoodrats would behave themselves. Any you wonder why cops profile.

Please.

That's true to an extent...I guess. I'm not sure that it's fair to judge an entire neighborhood based on the actions of a few but if you say it is then I guess it must be. Of course, I'm ASSuming that you're not stupid enough to believe that the entire population of my area growing up were criminals...even though we were all treated that way. Guilty until proven innocent...

I don't know you or what you've been through in your life but judging by your posts in the past, I don't think that you have it too terribly... I wonder what you'd do if you were dropped on the streets of Detroit without a job, money or a place to live for a few months. I wonder how long your high minded code of ethics and your heavy handed judgmental attitude would last? A day, a week, heck, maybe just a few hours... It's easy to judge when your biggest problem is deciding which $1,000 set of tires you're going to put on your 'Vette during the next track day.

Amber Lamps · 11-27-2010, 07:03 PM

BTW I don't excuse anyone's behavior in the least... I found a way out and they could too. I understand that but to listen to people whom have never had a day's worth of real hardship act as if they know what it's like...

Anyway, it's a terrible cycle really. Yes there are criminals in the hood. Yes they do bad things. Yes it's understandable that the cops don't "like" them and treat them like trash. Fine. Unfortunately, it doesn't stop there. The cops treat everyone in the neighborhood like trash which breeds resentment. For the police and for the law they represent. I honestly hate the police, seriously, my first reaction is one of fear and loathing when I see a cop. I'm not a criminal. Aside from some minor adolescent bs crimes and a couple fights, I have a pretty clean record. The attitude becomes one of, "if I'm going to be punished, I may as well commit the crime". The police make it very hard for someone that is trying to better themselves to make it and to keep their attitude straight. Quite frankly, crime does pay and it's a hell of a lot easier than working 3 jobs (which I have) and going to school.

Oh well, I know that many of you will never even try to see the other side of the coin. That the numbers speak for themselves, 50% of prison inmates are black while only 13% of the population is. I understand how that looks from the outside, I really do. If I could come up with a solution I would.

I still think that the cop was over the line tackling that kid regardless of how many other sport bike riders have taken off... Heck, by that standard, the cops should treat EVERY sport bike stop as a potential runner and come out with guns drawn, ready to pounce!

VatorMan · 11-27-2010, 07:04 PM

You have a valid point. Economics plays a huge part of any setting. However, there is making a living vs. getting paid. I'd love to see hoodrats get dropped off in Iowa. Would they suddenly get work ethic or see a golden opportunity to steal from the local yokels.

Goes both ways my friend.

11-27-2010, 07:03 PM	#5
Amber Lamps Moto GP Star Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 14,556	BTW I don't excuse anyone's behavior in the least... I found a way out and they could too. I understand that but to listen to people whom have never had a day's worth of real hardship act as if they know what it's like... Anyway, it's a terrible cycle really. Yes there are criminals in the hood. Yes they do bad things. Yes it's understandable that the cops don't "like" them and treat them like trash. Fine. Unfortunately, it doesn't stop there. The cops treat everyone in the neighborhood like trash which breeds resentment. For the police and for the law they represent. I honestly hate the police, seriously, my first reaction is one of fear and loathing when I see a cop. I'm not a criminal. Aside from some minor adolescent bs crimes and a couple fights, I have a pretty clean record. The attitude becomes one of, "if I'm going to be punished, I may as well commit the crime". The police make it very hard for someone that is trying to better themselves to make it and to keep their attitude straight. Quite frankly, crime does pay and it's a hell of a lot easier than working 3 jobs (which I have) and going to school. Oh well, I know that many of you will never even try to see the other side of the coin. That the numbers speak for themselves, 50% of prison inmates are black while only 13% of the population is. I understand how that looks from the outside, I really do. If I could come up with a solution I would. I still think that the cop was over the line tackling that kid regardless of how many other sport bike riders have taken off... Heck, by that standard, the cops should treat EVERY sport bike stop as a potential runner and come out with guns drawn, ready to pounce!

11-27-2010, 07:04 PM	#6
VatorMan Wrap Yo Ass in Fiberglass Join Date: Feb 2008 Moto: Feet Posts: 1,605	You have a valid point. Economics plays a huge part of any setting. However, there is making a living vs. getting paid. I'd love to see hoodrats get dropped off in Iowa. Would they suddenly get work ethic or see a golden opportunity to steal from the local yokels. Goes both ways my friend.