Great, another US war

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by tallywacker

Sure I am, I just wish more people would be as well. This nation and it's governance is a fucking mess.

I wouldn't be as mad if I didn't know first hand how much money is wasted during "wartime" and just disappears. Contractors getting paid to do nothing or shitty work, then pay the same to do it over again. Buying brand new dualie turbo diesel F-350's for officers/contractors/civilians to cruise around the green zone and LSA Anaconda in.

Then don't get me started on the bribe money we paid the locals so they wouldn't bomb us anymore. Sons of Iraq garbage only worked because they got paid well to just to sit on the side of the road with an AK. It was like the US Army paying protection money to the mafia or else they would plant IED's if we didn't.

Nice

[Papa_Complex]

So where is the 'no fly zone' for Bahrain?

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

So where is the 'no fly zone' for Bahrain?

1. There is only 8 people in Bahrain. The other 1,000,000 people who live there are hired actors. One misplaced bomb could wipe out the who population.
2. Saudi's are doing the no fly zone except they are not using planes. They sent security forces to walk around making airplane sounds while they beat protesters with shotgun barrels and bullets.

[Archren]

Originally Posted by tallywacker

I wouldn't be as mad if I didn't know first hand how much money is wasted during "wartime" and just disappears. Contractors getting paid to do nothing or shitty work, then pay the same to do it over again. Buying brand new dualie turbo diesel F-350's for officers/contractors/civilians to cruise around the green zone and LSA Anaconda in.

Having worked in Engineering and Contracting ops downrange this last deployment... this assessment is spot on. We had a requirement of giving local contractors the option of doing construction for us.. yeah, it was cheaper than KBR or even RED HORSE, but their work was fucking crap. RED HORSE could put down a concrete pad in a few hours and make it look like a fucking work of art. LN contractor puts a similar concrete pad down and makes it look like he took a shit instead - pad was cracked before it was even fully cured. And then the assholes who we had to deal with for bringing in gravel... that was highway robbery right there. But that's an entirely different rant.

And bird Colonels should have to ride the fucking bus back to their CHUs just like the rest of us. DILLIGAF that you are a brigade commander? You already get your own shower and shitter while the rest of us have to walk a block for the same thing every morning. Leave the vehicles where the people who actually do some work can use them.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

1. There is only 8 people in Bahrain. The other 1,000,000 people who live there are hired actors. One misplaced bomb could wipe out the who population.
2. Saudi's are doing the no fly zone except they are not using planes. They sent security forces to walk around making airplane sounds while they beat protesters with shotgun barrels and bullets.

You mean....

[fatbuckRTO]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

So where is the 'no fly zone' for Bahrain?

Having been to Bahrain a couple times, I'm still stuck on the question "WTF is there to protest about?"

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

Having been to Bahrain a couple times, I'm still stuck on the question "WTF is there to protest about?"

Whatever it is, it's apparently worth killing a few hundred people over too.

[KSGregman]

Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

Having been to Bahrain a couple times, I'm still stuck on the question "WTF is there to protest about?"

Bahrain is a monarchy.....the "royal" family is Sunni Muslim....the vast majority of people in Bahrain are Shia Muslims and are FIERCELY discriminated against. The majority who are being persecuted because of their religion....denied education...denied access to decent jobs...have had enough.

Want to know why Saudi Arabia built a bridge to Bahrain? It certainly wasn't to support a tourist industry....it was because if those dirty Shia bastards ever decided to act up....right on the doorstep of the heart of Sunni Muslim-ism they wanted a fast track to get there and kick ass....which is EXACTLY what you are seeing in Bahrain today.

http://www.bahrainrights.org/node/29

[fatbuckRTO]

Originally Posted by KSGregman

Want to know why Saudi Arabia built a bridge to Bahrain? It certainly wasn't to support a tourist industry....it was because if those dirty Shia bastards ever decided to act up....right on the doorstep of the heart of Sunni Muslim-ism they wanted a fast track to get there and kick ass....which is EXACTLY what you are seeing in Bahrain today.

Meh. So the question of who to support in Bahrain really becomes "Who do you want to see discriminated against most?" Because if and when the Shias are in control you can count on an instant replay against Sunnis.

Right off the top of my head, I'd say "no one," which is who we should be supporting in Libya too. I guarantee whoever comes out ahead will turn right around and bite whatever western hands are in range.

[KSGregman]

Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

Meh. So the question of who to support in Bahrain really becomes "Who do you want to see discriminated against most?" Because if and when the Shias are in control you can count on an instant replay against Sunnis.

Right off the top of my head, I'd say "no one," which is who we should be supporting in Libya too. I guarantee whoever comes out ahead will turn right around and bite whatever western hands are in range.

I didn't and don't express an opinion about who is right or wrong....anyone using "religion" to justify aggression/killing/murder/war is beyond hope anyway.

Add in the tribal-ism that still plagues that part of the world and you have a REAL shit hole.