Buell 1125CR

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by marko138

Wheel is correct. Just look how thin the spokes are...the braking forces aren't being transfered to the hub with the ZTL.


The stock pads...and I dont know about the 1125...as I've had limited riding time on them...but on the Firebolt they are too soft. They leave deposits on the rotors that make it feel warped. The Lyndall Gold's took care of all of that. They have great feel and great power.

how soft they are. Still well over 50% with over 7K on 'em.
The "deposits" can be taken care of with some aggressive braking too

[Dnyce]

and the 1125 has the second gen ztl system-bigger caliper, four pads-probably work better than the firebolt stock vs stock

its a retrofit to the other models i think too....

[FT BSTRD]

The weight savings is 6.6lbs per Buell's documents. In addition, Buell spec'd special tires that also had approximately 1-1.5 lbs less overall weight (this is part of the reason that the tires were changed in later years from the stock Dunlops that tended to stand up in cornering).

The Diablo T were supposed to be lighter than the stock Diablo tires. I know they spec'd the D616 to specific weight characteristics.

For most folks who ride "normally", the stock brakes are fine. Those who ride more "spiritedly" would want upgraded brake pads. They are $50. It ain't like it's a big expense. Remember, there is only ONE set.


Because the rotor is mounted directly to the rim, there is no need to have thicker spokes in order to transfer the braking force from the hub to the rim.


The system works and works very well. Changing the brake pad composition improves initial bite and overall feel.

There has never been a situation street or track where I lacked for braking. You'd be hard pressed to out brake me with a conventional system.


The new ZTL2 system with four pot caliper has the same surface area and braking force as a twin four pot system.


It's different, and that scares people.

[marko138]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

how soft they are. Still well over 50% with over 7K on 'em.
The "deposits" can be taken care of with some aggressive braking too

Maybe the stockers are different on the 1125's. Mine where damn near shot when I bought the bike with 5300 miles on it.

[FT BSTRD]

Originally Posted by marko138

Maybe the stockers are different on the 1125's. Mine where damn near shot when I bought the bike with 5300 miles on it.

Yep. Mine were blasted at 4500 miles with really bad deposits on the rotors.

They replaced the rotors under warranty and I immediately got Lyndall's Golds.

They stop like stink, give much better feedback, and last much longer.


I don't know who sources the stockers, but they suck. I think they provide the wrong impression for testers. I would recommend that all test bikes be fitted with Lyndall's or EBC HH pads.

[marko138]

Originally Posted by FT BSTRD

Yep. Mine were blasted at 4500 miles with really bad deposits on the rotors.

They replaced the rotors under warranty and I immediately got Lyndall's Golds.

They stop like stink, give much better feedback, and last much longer.


I don't know who sources the stockers, but they suck. I think they provide the wrong impression for testers. I would recommend that all test bikes be fitted with Lyndall's or EBC HH pads.

You ride track at all? If so, do you keep the Lyndalls on for track duty? I've read, on badweb I believe, that the Lyndalls are the greatest for track duty.


I was thinking about getting a set of EBC's for the track.

[FT BSTRD]

Originally Posted by marko138

You ride track at all? If so, do you keep the Lyndalls on for track duty? I've read, on badweb I believe, that the Lyndalls are the greatest for track duty.


I was thinking about getting a set of EBC's for the track.

I've ridden with both the Lyndall's and the EBC's. I prefer the Lyndall's for street. They have a much more linear feel. They provide a much more flexible initial bite. If you put on the brakes a little, you get a little. If you grab a handfull, you get a strong initial bite.

The EBC's provide much less linear feel. They have an initial bite that is strong like new rope. You can overpower your tire traction with the brake force if you grabbed a handfull in a panic. This is great for track use because you can delay your brake point longer and then put the binders on hard.

For the street, though, I prefer the linear feel. I don't switch out for track days. I've only ridden one track so far that really needed it, and that was Nashville Super Speedway. Coming off the front straight, I wouldn't have minded a little additional brake force. Otherwise, I'm working to keep the entry speed as high as possible. Otherwise, I'm taking bird strikes in the rear from 600's and 1000's.

[marko138]

Hmm...maybe I'll give the Lyndalls a try at the track once. I dont want to throw the EBC's on there and be used to the characteristics of the Lyndalls and get surprised.

[Cutty72]

Good to know. Not sure what to pick up when these do go to hell.

I know Buell does offer a "race pad" for the 1125, but I've heard they suck on the street cause they don't heat up fast and have NO feel when cold.

[FT BSTRD]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

Good to know. Not sure what to pick up when these do go to hell.

I know Buell does offer a "race pad" for the 1125, but I've heard they suck on the street cause they don't heat up fast and have NO feel when cold.

EBCs are that way as well. It takes a couple of really good heat cycles for them to feel "right". That's also part of the reason I like the Lyndall's.