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Old 03-13-2009, 01:55 AM   #1
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It's just a waste of time, especially if you wipe down your bike frequently. I used it on my '04 one day and nothing changed. Just a waste of time, money and a waste of quick detailer that you could use just wiping it down normally.
Evidently you know nothing about clay barring.
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Old 03-13-2009, 08:42 AM   #2
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Evidently you know nothing about clay barring.
What do you know. Share your thoughts.
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Old 03-13-2009, 10:38 AM   #3
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A proper clay barring is like applying an extremely fine wet sanding to your paint. It removes crud and contaminants from the paint surface.

Strip all products off the paint using a soap like lemon dawn, then use a little bit of quick detailer as a lubricant for your clay barring... keep the clay bar lubed so it slides nicely and work around the vehicle.

If you run the back of your hand over a clay barred and non clay barred section and you can tell me it's a waste of your time and money, then you're either Helen Keller or just plain stupid.

You will notice as you go that the clay bar starts getting discolorations on it and such. That is the crap you're pulling out of the pits and craters in your paint that contaminants and acids and stuff have etched into it, and you're 'sanding' it smooth. Just keep kneading/folding the clay occasionally to keep the part of the clay touching the paint fresh.

After clay barring the paint is truly 'naked' and perfectly smooth. Now you lay down your protection. Lay down some wax, then some polish on top.

That's how you get the magazine look where the paint looks wet and you can see deep into it.
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I'm gonna do this to my Jeep when the weather is a little nicer...and I actually have a day to do it.
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Old 03-15-2009, 07:21 PM   #5
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A proper clay barring is like applying an extremely fine wet sanding to your paint. It removes crud and contaminants from the paint surface.

Strip all products off the paint using a soap like lemon dawn, then use a little bit of quick detailer as a lubricant for your clay barring... keep the clay bar lubed so it slides nicely and work around the vehicle.

If you run the back of your hand over a clay barred and non clay barred section and you can tell me it's a waste of your time and money, then you're either Helen Keller or just plain stupid.

You will notice as you go that the clay bar starts getting discolorations on it and such. That is the crap you're pulling out of the pits and craters in your paint that contaminants and acids and stuff have etched into it, and you're 'sanding' it smooth. Just keep kneading/folding the clay occasionally to keep the part of the clay touching the paint fresh.

After clay barring the paint is truly 'naked' and perfectly smooth. Now you lay down your protection. Lay down some wax, then some polish on top.

That's how you get the magazine look where the paint looks wet and you can see deep into it.
never use the back of your hand to "feel" anything. whether its bodywork, color sanding, runs, anything paint related, i see u use the back of your hand, your opinion is now useless. use your the palm of your hand.

anywho, i helped a friend clay bar a car, and yea it felt incredibly smooth and looked gd, but it didnt feel any smoother than the paint job i had on my bike at the time, and it didnt look quite as "wet" as my bike. the paint jobs were about the same age, but i took way better care of mine. clay bar isnt always needed to get a magazine worthy shine.

edit-but from what id gather marko, if u took the time to do it on your car-u would be happy with the results based on your climate and the fact your jeep doesnt get pampered like your buell...
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Old 03-15-2009, 11:29 PM   #6
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never use the back of your hand to "feel" anything. whether its bodywork, color sanding, runs, anything paint related, i see u use the back of your hand, your opinion is now useless. use your the palm of your hand.
I actually meant more the backs/tops of your fingers. They are very sensitive. I should have clarified.
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edit-but from what id gather marko, if u took the time to do it on your car-u would be happy with the results based on your climate and the fact your jeep doesnt get pampered like your buell...
No it sure doesn't get pampered like the Buell. Although I do take care of it. I wash it often and wax it about once a year....but certainly not to the extent of the bike.
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Old 03-16-2009, 10:48 AM   #8
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Just washed parts of the bike as I was putting the rear wheel on.

Whoever says it takes 10 minutes to wash a bike has never washed mine. With the wheels off, it still takes about 30 minutes to clean just one...
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