I went and did it

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Tommy haven't you ridden a GSXR1000? It pulls very similar to a V-Twin imho and it turns WAY fucking easier than most V-Twins!!! Personally, I think that you will be very happy with your bike, I mean that, and I hope that you get millions of miles worth of enjoyment from it, I mean that too.

As far as comparison goes, well I'll never stop believing that bikes should be matched up by purpose and engine size. If you come to the table with a 1000+cc sport bike, I would hope that you and your design team imbibed it with the very best engine that you could for this application. If that is a V-Twin then okay, if it is not then I'm sorry but your machine is inferior for this application! Again, it's like on Pinks where they tell the builders to bring 5 liter cars. One guy brings a Chevy and one brings a Ford, the one with the slower car spends the whole show complaining that his car is slower and deserves special treatment. My question is, why didn't you build a better/faster car? Sportbikes are about speed, handling and brakes in my opinion. Everything else is secondary.

I'll most likely get one and I'm sure that I'll enjoy it for what it is and what I got it for. If it is "better" than my GSXR I swear to you right now that I will admit it publicly on this forum. If not well, I'm sure that you can imagine...

Only liter bikes I have ridden are twins, I have a 2000 750 as a track bike but thats been it. I have heard the newer 1ks pull like twins with the torque they have.


I think even with in a "class" like I4 liter bikes the differences are prety negligible and most street riders/mere mortals wont notice or appreciate that one laps willow springs a half second faster. Prolly comes down more to feel, comfort and how the bike handles for that rider.

Tom

[Dave]

Originally Posted by tommymac

Only liter bikes I have ridden are twins, I have a 2000 750 as a track bike but thats been it. I have heard the newer 1ks pull like twins with the torque they have.


I think even with in a "class" like I4 liter bikes the differences are prety negligible and most street riders/mere mortals wont notice or appreciate that one laps willow springs a half second faster. Prolly comes down more to feel, comfort and how the bike handles for that rider.

Tom

you forgot sound.

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by Dave

you forgot sound.

My bad, how could I forget that

Tom

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by tommymac

My bad, how could I forget that

Tom

Yea now that's where v-twins rule imho!!! Triples and v4s are close.

[jalaan1]

ok Tommy,
i checked out New Roc HD this morning, and they had a couple XB12Rs on the floor.

-first off they're stuck on asking just under 7k for them.
-the ergos felt good for my size. seat is def. higher than my bike, but i could still flat foot it.
-the bike looks even better in person, to me anyway
-very nice & knowledgable salesmen (for once none of the typical HD dealer BS i've experienced from other HD dealers)
he offered me a test ride but i declined being that i didn't have any of my gear with me and i don't feel comfortable riding a different bike especially since it just rained by the time i got there.
he did pull the bike out for me to start it and let me rev, feel and listen to the engine.

i must say i've heard and read about all the vibration of the bike nonsense....
but DAMN, this thing was shaking all to hell.
i'm gonna go back next weekend, depending on the weather, for a test ride.
after that we'll see if i actually pull the trigger.

[FT BSTRD]

They shake like a jackhammer at idle.

The engine smoothes out at 2500-3000RPMs+.


Above 3,000, the heavy flywheel makes it one of the smoothest engines. They are actually smoother with 5000+ miles on the clock than new and remain smoothe.

I just don't sit around at idle any more than I have to.

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by FT BSTRD

They shake like a jackhammer at idle.

The engine smoothes out at 2500-3000RPMs+.


Above 3,000, the heavy flywheel makes it one of the smoothest engines. They are actually smoother with 5000+ miles on the clock than new and remain smoothe.

I just don't sit around at idle any more than I have to.

you still got the uly? thought you sold it!?

[jalaan1]

Originally Posted by FT BSTRD

They shake like a jackhammer at idle.

The engine smoothes out at 2500-3000RPMs+.


Above 3,000, the heavy flywheel makes it one of the smoothest engines. They are actually smoother with 5000+ miles on the clock than new and remain smoothe.

I just don't sit around at idle any more than I have to.

pretty much, exactly what the sales guy said.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Yea now that's where v-twins rule imho!!! Triples and v4s are close.

i looooove the howl of a proper triple. its a damned shame we never got a serious big daytona (though i hear that may be in the works) or a foggy petronas

also have to add that i consider the norton 588 to be the best sounding bike out there. amazing

[Gas Man]

Well I know that my dealer sold them all out well over a week ago.