Terminator Salvation - Page 3

Sixxxxer · 05-25-2009, 11:03 AM

Wow Corey...that was confusing as hell to read...

Either way Its made for entertainment purposes not to be as realistic as possible.

But I dont know how this story ties into the series...is it a Pre quel?? since John connor is older than his father at the time. and if he doesnt save him john connor doesnt exist??

Corey · 05-25-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

Wow Corey...that was confusing as hell to read...

Either way Its made for entertainment purposes not to be as realistic as possible.

But I dont know how this story ties into the series...is it a Pre quel?? since John connor is older than his father at the time. and if he doesnt save him john connor doesnt exist??

It is a prequel and it's not a prequel. In the timeline sense of things, it takes place after the previous movies with no jumps to the past or anything like that. In a story sense, it happens before Kyle Reese and the Terminator are sent back in time and before the T-800's are built, so I guess that would sort of make it first, though not really because of the time travel shit. And yes, if Kyle Reese dies, John Connor doesn't exist. But if John Connor doesn't exist, Kyle Reese isn't in danger. Oh the joys of time travel and paradoxes.

Lamnidae · 05-25-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Corey

It is a prequel and it's not a prequel. In the timeline sense of things, it takes place after the previous movies with no jumps to the past or anything like that. In a story sense, it happens before Kyle Reese and the Terminator are sent back in time and before the T-800's are built, so I guess that would sort of make it first, though not really because of the time travel shit. And yes, if Kyle Reese dies, John Connor doesn't exist. But if John Connor doesn't exist, Kyle Reese isn't in danger. Oh the joys of time travel and paradoxes.

but that was a T-800 that was built at the end.

Sixxxxer · 05-25-2009, 11:11 AM

Fucking Confusing...I dont think the Storyline was meant for this to have an actual "Spot" like Back to the Future 1 2 and 3 and Star wars they have stories that can go in order and what not...This one kinda just made itself its own monster...They left the ending Open as hell...I just hope Bale doesnt sign on for another one...I think he plays an awesoem Batman...But People just think of him AS batman.

Corey · 05-25-2009, 03:38 PM

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but that was a T-800 that was built at the end.

Didn't want to spoil it too much.

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Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

Fucking Confusing...I dont think the Storyline was meant for this to have an actual "Spot" like Back to the Future 1 2 and 3 and Star wars they have stories that can go in order and what not...This one kinda just made itself its own monster...They left the ending Open as hell...I just hope Bale doesnt sign on for another one...I think he plays an awesoem Batman...But People just think of him AS batman.

It sure didn't help that he spent the entire movie doing the raspy Batman voice.

Lamnidae · 05-25-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Corey

Didn't want to spoil it too much.

It sure didn't help that he spent the entire movie doing the raspy Batman voice.

bah then you get some a-hole like myself ruining it. lol

dReWpY · 05-26-2009, 05:14 PM

i thought it was a good movie, no problems about science fiction being well fiction...

Dave · 05-26-2009, 07:58 PM

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That's the one thing that sort of throws me off the franchise. The machines go back in time to kill John Connor. John Connor sends someone back in time to stop them. The fact that John Connor is still alive to send someone back in time shows you right away that they failed, or else there wouldn't be a John Connor to send someone back in time. For that matter, if they do succeed, then John Connor is dead in the future, the Machines don't know who the hell John Connor is or that he even exists, so they have no need to send a machine back in time to kill John Connor. So they don't send anyone back in time, and now John Connor lives. So John Connor is alive because there is no John Connor.

Fucking stupid time travel stories.

thought they said in the third one that his wife sent it. and with causality being what it is they never have to follow the same universe/timeline. think about it, if john conner sends the termi back its not to protect himself but an alt history john since the act of sending it will cause him and his timeline to cease to be. shoulda left it be after the first one IMO

Rider · 05-27-2009, 09:06 AM

I heard the movie sucked balls.

pauldun170 · 05-28-2009, 11:18 AM

Spoilers

How they screwed it up

http://chud.com/articles/articles/19...ION/Page1.html

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Sixxxxer Like Gixxxxer But Not Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Dirty Jersey Moto: 2008 ZX6R Posts: 4,891	Wow Corey...that was confusing as hell to read... Either way Its made for entertainment purposes not to be as realistic as possible. But I dont know how this story ties into the series...is it a Pre quel?? since John connor is older than his father at the time. and if he doesnt save him john connor doesnt exist?? __________________ [FRSH] Candy Plasma Blue

05-25-2009, 11:11 AM	#24
Sixxxxer Like Gixxxxer But Not Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Dirty Jersey Moto: 2008 ZX6R Posts: 4,891	Fucking Confusing...I dont think the Storyline was meant for this to have an actual "Spot" like Back to the Future 1 2 and 3 and Star wars they have stories that can go in order and what not...This one kinda just made itself its own monster...They left the ending Open as hell...I just hope Bale doesnt sign on for another one...I think he plays an awesoem Batman...But People just think of him AS batman. __________________ [FRSH] Candy Plasma Blue

05-27-2009, 09:06 AM	#29
Rider Moto GP Star Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 12,156	I heard the movie sucked balls.